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04-09-05, 02:05 AM
I haven't even touched on the part about man capable of messing around with the weather
TELL IT. "F' THOSE NOT INTERESTED!
TO THOSE WHO WISH TO STAY - STAY!
NO ONE IS FORCING YOUTO GO!
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO THROW "WATER" ON THE "FLAME" OF THOSE WHO WISH TO LEAVE.
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Didit ever occur to you, WE COULD BUILD OUR OWN?
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No, it didn't...I suppose I was operating under the misguided notion that all the inhabitable land on the planet had been claimed centuries ago.
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Unless you're thinking of trying Antarctica?
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I hear ya, loud and clear. Must of us black people are excellent at talking that bulls**t, but when it comes to walking the walk, we're a bunch of cripples.
"Black people should do this."
"Black people should do that."
"Black people should leave America and go back to the mother land." This is of course coming from some f**k who's hiding in his/her bedroom in the Privieged West.
I wish our people would stop telling us where we should be, when their standing right next to you. Amazing.
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04-09-05, 08:10 AM
Impact Player.
Your obviously one of the good and and sensible brothers, but I don't think that the rest of our pretend to be a vicious militant brothers and sisters willlike your logic, even though they all still live here in the Privieged West. They all say that we should leave, but they don't have a plane ticket their damn selves. Hypocrites.
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04-09-05, 08:15 AM
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Your such a lovely, and reasonable person. These idiots are just talking out their militant asses. Yet they themselves still live here, luck their heroes, the suicidal bombers. I wish that they all got the f**k out, so the cops can stop seaching me for a grenade.
You don't like it here, then the answers so damn simple, "Get the f**k out."
If your relationship is becoming unbearable, what do you do, you f**king leave, and move on. Word.
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04-09-05, 08:20 AM
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Your very bold to use simple logic on this site, they'll skin you alive. Even though the ones that want to argue with you are still living in the decadent and imperialist west. These closet militants wouldn't bust a grape in a grapevine.
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If you won't or can't get out you better have a plan in order to take on this happening again. Pre-planned GENOCIDE.
People of the Dome
by Mitchel Cohen; September 03, 2005
Les Evenchick, an independent Green who lives in the French Quarter of New Orleans in a 3-story walkup, reports that 90 percent of the so-called looters are simply grabbing water, food, diapers and medicines, because the federal and state officials have refused to provide these basic necessities.
Les says that "it's only because of the looters that non-looters -- old people, sick people, small children -- are able to survive."
Those people who stole televisions and large non-emergency items have been SELLING THEM, Les reports (having witnessed several of these "exchanges") so that they could get enough money together to leave the area.
Think about it:
- People were told to leave, but all the bus stations had closed down the night before and the personnel sent packing.
- Many people couldn't afford tickets anyway.
- Many people are stranded, and others are refusing to leave their homes, pets, etc. They don't have cars.
You want people to stop looting? Provide the means for them to eat, and to leave the area.
Some tourists in the Monteleone Hotel paid $25,000 for 10 buses. The buses were sent (I guess there were many buses available, if you paid the price!) but the military confiscated them to use NOT for transporting people in the Dome but for the military. The tourists were not allowed to leave. Instead, the military ordered the tourists to the now-infamous Convention Center.
HOW SIMPLE it would have been for the State and/or US government to have provided buses for people BEFORE the hurricane hit, and throughout this week. Even evacuating 100,000 people trapped there -- that's 3,000 buses, less than come into Washington D.C. for some of the giant antiwar demonstrations there. Even at $2,500 a pop -- highway robbery -- that would only be a total of $7.5 million for transporting all of those who did not have the means to leave.
Instead, look at the human and economic cost of not doing that!
So why didn't they do that?
On Wednesday Green Party activists tried to bring a large amount of water to the SuperDome. They were prevented from doing so, as have many others. Why have food and water been BLOCKED from reaching tens of thousands of poor people?
On Thursday, the government used the excuse that there were some very scattered gunshots (two or three instances only) -- around 1/50th of the number of gunshots that occur in New York City on an average day -- to shut down voluntary rescue operations and to scrounge for 5,000 National Guard troops fully armed, with "shoot to kill" orders -- at a huge economic cost.
They even refused to allow voluntary workers who had rescued over 1,000 people in boats over the previous days to continue on Thursday, using the several gunshots (and who knows WHO shot off those rounds?) to say "It's too dangerous". The volunteers didn't think the gunshots were dangerous to them and wanted to continue their rescue operations and had to be "convinced" at gunpoint to "cease and desist."
There is something sinister going down -- it's not just incompetence or negligence.
How could FEMA and Homeland Security not have something so basic as bottled drinking water in the SuperDome, which was long a part of the hurricane plan? One police officer in charge of his 120-person unit said yesterday that his squad was provided with only 70 small bottles of water.
Two years ago, New Orleans residents -- the only area in the entire state that voted in huge numbers against the candidacy of George Bush -- also fought off attempts to privatize the drinking water supply. There have also been major battles to block Shell Oil's attempt to build a Liquid Natural Gas facility, and to preent the teardown of public housing (which failed), with the Mayor lining up in the latter two issues on the side of the oil companies and the developers.
One of the first acts of Governor Kathleen Blanco (a Democrat, by the way) during this crisis was to TURN OFF the drinking water, to force people to evacuate. There was no health reason to turn it off, as the water is drawn into a separate system from the Mississippi River, not the polluted lake, and purified through self-powered purification plants separate from the main electric grid. If necessary, people could have been told to boil their water -- strangely, the municipal natural gas used in stoves was still functioning properly as of Thursday night!
There are thousands of New Orleans residents who are refusing to evacuate because they don't want to leave their pets, their homes, or who have no money to do so nor place to go. The government -- which COULD HAVE and SHOULD HAVE provided water and food to residents of New Orleans -- has NOT done so INTENTIONALLY to force people to evacuate by starving them out. This is a crime of the gravest sort.
We need to understand that the capability has been there from the start to DRIVE water and food right up to the convention center, as those roads have been clear -- it's how the National Guard drove into the city.
Let me say this again: Until the National Guard marched in today (Friday), the government was intentionally not allowing food or water to be distributed.
This is for real.
MSNBC interviewed dozens of people who had gotten out. Every single one of them was WHITE.
The people who are poor (primarily Black but many poor Whites as well) are finally being allowed to leave the horrendous conditions in the SuperDome; many are being bussed to the AstroDome in Houston.
Call them "People of the Dome."
If people resist the National Guard coming to remove them against their will, will New Orleans become known as the first battle in the new American revolution?
Thank you so much for sharing this with usclp). I kept on asking myself this whole week why water and even other basic supplies are not to be found in the area or even transported there quickly. The more I read/find outabout this this tragedy the more it seems clear that this was all man-caused.
And AA seriously need to start organising themselves, cause whitey could care less about you.
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04-09-05, 01:18 PM
It has crossed my mind, and for the longest time the dream relocation spot was Jamaica. The rose colored glasses are off, and I know in my heart that it would not work for me. I do not hope to see in my lifetime the changes that would make it possible for me to fully hold my head up and be proud of this country and it's progress. I will be buried on American soil.
I've been looking for love is all the wrong websites.
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04-09-05, 02:32 PM
@ Miky
It is you that needs to get your facts straight before you start quoting about the richest Black in world being African, I don't doubt that for a second, and please don't let me get started on how he may or may not have come into his riches. Fact is that Black Americans ARE more successful on average that Black Caribbeans and Africans etc, and as for the one or two countries that may or may not accept them i.e. Liberia that’s great but Black American culture is different and it may cause problems for the people of whatever country they move too. It would take some form of a compromise on both parts before it would work, and then the West would have us all right where they want us to be to finish us all off completely.
During a conversation with my friend in Washington, I mentioned this topic to him last night, just to get his opinion, and before I could finish explaining he was up in arms about bare mentions of leaving his beloved USA to go anywhere else in the world. He would rather stand and fight than run like a 'coward' (his words).
So that being the case I say that they should stay put and continue to grow as who they are 'Black Americans'.
p.s Miky why does it bother you that black Americans are more successful? Interesting. You called me ignorant for quoting a FACT!!! Do your research. headpoint
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04-09-05, 05:39 PM
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I know you'vre thought about doing it before but have never had enough motivate to take those instincts seriously.
Well now I think it's time you really considered leaving the United States.
Do it ASAP, as in immediately.
[line]Just out of curiosity... and go where? What one place can readily accomodate 40 million people whose standard of living parallels that of the American Ideal? Which Nation will greet 40 million "who will surely take over the said place" with open arms? Do we go to Belize and Guyana and surplant the Ruling Indians? Do we go to South Africa, Namibia, Ghana or botswana as 40 million people and overwhelm an already unstable situation and create more ethnic disputes ala Liberia?
The Utopian suggestions kill me. Where ever Black people are there is a fight! Should we run and suffer mediocrity elswhere or stay here where we own property and have an historical right here as fighting has been our legacy.
For thise who keep echoing the Bush don't care and AfroAmericans don't know:
We all knew Bush didn't care as Texas Governor, thats why in two elections we overwhelming voted against him,we helped oust his father and voted against Ronald Reagan. We aren't as Stupid as you think. The shock came as we have always said these things regarding a hurricane but who the hell ever thought we'd have the opportunity to experience the neglect like we have?
Running away from the problem only makes us refugees to a lesser extent, I say we stay and fight. If anything we continu our migrations to Southern States, concentrate our skilled labor and capital, assume the governorships and run those states how we see fit. S.Carolina, N.Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana can be our target states. This is more sensible and doable than an exodus from the USA. It would require less building, less intracultural conflicts, travel and other headaches.
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Brother Omaar
I hear ya, loud and clear. Must of us black people are excellent at talking that bulls**t, but when it comes to walking the walk, we're a bunch of cripples.
"Black people should do this."
"Black people should do that."
"Black people should leave America and go back to the mother land." This is of course coming from some f**k who's hiding in his/her bedroom in the Privieged West.
I wish our people would stop telling us where we should be, when their standing right next to you. Amazing.
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My friends call these armchair chit-chatters vegetarian revolutionaries," talk the talk but don't eat beef"
I created a thread asking people with degrees what are they doing and some of the biggest mouths were silent. It is all too easy to sit on the internet and offer solutions when you yourself are living in an imperialist, racist Western Nation enjoying the creature comforts and opportunities your respective homeland doesn't offer likely because of the "Brain Drain", i.e, Foreign Nationals chatting from England, the USA or Belgium talking the talk.
"Ni66a's talk shyt and abandone ship!"-Busta Rhymes The Coming Album
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Brother Omaar
I hear ya, loud and clear. Must of us black people are excellent at talking that bulls**t, but when it comes to walking the walk, we're a bunch of cripples.
"Black people should do this."
"Black people should do that."
"Black people should leave America and go back to the mother land." This is of course coming from some f**k who's hiding in his/her bedroom in the Privieged West.
I wish our people would stop telling us where we should be, when their standing right next to you. Amazing.
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My friends call these armchair chit-chatters vegetarian revolutionaries," talk the talk but don't eat beef"
I created a thread asking people with degress what are they doing and some of the biggest mouths were silent. It is all too easy to sit on the internet and offer solutions when you yourself are living in an imperialist, racist Western Nation enjoying the creature comforts and opportunities your respective homeland doesn't offer because of the "Brain Drain", i.e, Foreign Nationals chatting from England, the USA or Belgium talking the talk.
"Ni66a's talk shyt and abandone ship!"-Busta Rhymes The Coming Album
@Masai05
Let me be very brief and clear for you
1. only a foolish person will come onto a WORLD WIDE WEB and ask people what are their plans. I notice you Americans are the first to come here and ask such questions and ask personal questions such as
what is your name and I will tell you what it means
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