Poverty In The West = Lack Of Effort - Page 4

Abstract · (#76 (**permalink**))

umbrarchist wrote:

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You're the first American that hasn't ripped my head off for even suggesting this.

OK, stick-up. When did I rip your head off? Did I leave it lying around my apartment. I must have accidentally kicked it under a table.

umbra

LOL Umbra, you know about me and my generalisations... what else did you expect i'd say.

MamaZora · (#77 (**permalink**))

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It seems to me you & stick up kid should compare family's then, i know you don't think you speak for 40 million people to generalize 40 mill with the ten Africans you met.

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My family(well my biological one at least) is African American. My comments reflect what I see in my own family and in my own city. I have cousins who didn't even graduate high school, didn't even think about college yet sit around complaining about these "africans" coming here taking "our jobs" & being successful. Obviously not all 40 million African Americans are like this. Some are ambitious and hard-working-whoopty doo! Those people are doing well and have it together. But some of our people don't. Sitting around and patting ourselves on the back for the success stories will not help those who aren't realizing the dream.

"It's not about showing respect" in the words of Malcolm i'd have to classify you as a house negro, but i'd rather do numbers.

Oooh...a house negro. I'm so scared & hurt. I could care less. I live and deal in the reality of my people, not a fantasy.

500 billion anually is what shiftless Black Americans put into the economy a year,

And your point? Anyone can spend large amounts of money. It's saving and investing with it that makes a difference and we do not do enough of that.

if we were our own country we would rank 10th in the world...i'm not saying we dont have room for improvement, but comparing Africa's success stories to our own is dumb and foolish it holds no weight.

I have no problem comparing Africa's success stories to ours. Doing so actually encourages me. I see it like this: if they can come here, go through school all the way up to graduate level and do this all without any assistance, then I as an American with all the advantages of citizenshipshould be able to do even more than that. There is no reason why recent immigrants should outperform us in anything when we have so many opportunities.

If we sent our college grads over there telling their poor "do as my family did" or just sit idle and remain lazy.........they would kill you! 100

Rolling_Rock · (#78 (**permalink**))

[align=center]I have no problem comparing Africa's success stories to ours. Doing so actually encourages me. I see it like this: if they can come here, go through school all the way up to graduate level and do this all without any assistance, then I as an American with all the advantages of citizenshipshould be able to do even more than that. There is no reason why recent immigrants should outperform us in anything when we have so many opportunities[/align]

[align=center] The only thing i've seen Africans "outperform"West Indians and Americans is in kissing Non Black booty and cooning out for Non Blacks in the workplace/classroom.I think they are more determined to "make it" because of the hellishconditions in their homelandsbut I don't think they are more intelligent than American Blacks.I know alot of American Black guys that work asdrug dealersand day laborers that are waybrighter and intelligentthan the average "educated" African .[/align]

MamaZora · (#79 (**permalink**))

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[align=center]I have no problem comparing Africa's success stories to ours. Doing so actually encourages me. I see it like this: if they can come here, go through school all the way up to graduate level and do this all without any assistance, then I as an American with all the advantages of citizenshipshould be able to do even more than that. There is no reason why recent immigrants should outperform us in anything when we have so many opportunities[/align]

[align=center] The only thing i've seen Africans "outperform"West Indians and Americans is in kissing Non Black booty and cooning out for Non Blacks in the workplace/classroom.I think they are more determined to "make it" because of the hellishconditions in their homelandsbut I don't think they are more intelligent than American Blacks.I know alot of American Black guys that work asdrug dealersand day laborers that are waybrighter and intelligentthan the average "educated" African .[/align]

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[align=center]*rolls eyes to self* It's Americans like you that make understanding between Africans and African Americans so difficult. You disgust me.[/align]

Masai05 · (#80 (**permalink**))

I have no problem comparing Africa's success stories to ours. Doing so actually encourages me. I see it like this: if they can come here, go through school all the way up to graduate level and do this all without any assistance, then I as an American with all the advantages of citizenshipshould be able to do even more than that. There is no reason why recent immigrants should outperform us in anything when we have so many opportunities.

If we sent our college grads over there telling their poor "do as my family did" or just sit idle and remain lazy.........they would kill you! 100

[line]This conversation is silly to say the least!

Immigrants have a different sort of motivation than the Native person (USA). An immigrant leaves everyone and everything behind and their motivation is success. People who have opportunities around them all the time take them for granted. This is scribed into stone, read some sociological research.

Case in point...Look at Africa. How many Indians, Chinese, Arabs and everyone else under the sun come to said nations and end up having Natives work for them? Lots!

Foreigners go there all the time with loans and launch industries while residents stay poor. If this work ethic and smarts that this premise is based on held true these people would achieve similar success in their respective homes of record!

If we sent our Black College grads to Africa I can guarantee you that there would be pandemonium given that someone with that sort of education would go with a business plan and the chief motivation would be success as opposed to vacationing. If Black Americans went to...say Nigeria in numbers equal to their immigration numbers many nigerians would be up in arms over how these Americans are doing better, go to private schools and don't give etc...

Its all about perspective and motivation. If the USA was as poor in regards to opportunities as some of those countries I'd formulate a plan and leave for better opportunites myself!

Rolling_Rock · (#81 (**permalink**))

[align=center]It's true.I am highly"educated".I don't think that makes me more intelligent than the next man that might not have had the same "oppurtunities" that I had...[/align]