Murder Blues - Page 2

CashMoney · (#26 (**permalink**))

Interesting show today. I like it, but was worried that teh officers little predujuices were seepign through

Like when the officer made a quip about people spending al that money on cars and houses but not fixing the road.hmmmmmmmmmmmmm??????

Felt sorry for Kevon's family. I knew it would be not guilty

Also was feeling Lee Jaspers speech during that rally.

Kunjufu · (#27 (**permalink**))

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Much of these men couldn't care less about there own lives let alone the lives of others. It is up to us to identify the problem and seek to put in place actions can at best deminish this psychopathecal mentality or at least minimise it.

This isn't a critique just some analysis from a sister who cares.

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Auset: can i first apologise for not responsing to your PM on the same subject, I've been rather buzy lately..however can i say this..

Whilst I understand your point of view I really don't agree for a number of reasons..

1. The raise in offending behaviour imo is not primarily to do with our skin colour, it has everything to do with the current economic climate...

2. If you watch the Murder blues series objectively, (baring in mind I've not watched episode two yet), The vast majority of these crimes a GANG, drug money related FIRST..the colour bit is secondary..

hench one of my objections to the term black on black, my second objection is that in effect Gun crime becomes synonimous with BLACK culture and far worse it is Ghettoised as a BLACK problem... Clearly I know from experience that is simply NOT true or factual.. I recall the massive gun battle a couple of years back on green lanes..which involved Kurds and Turkish mafia slugging it out.. I personally witnessed a what looked like a kurd, step out of the shadows at Turnpike lane and EMPTY yes empty his gun at point blank range into a couple in a car..before running off..

But my biggest concern is that Crime committed within the BLACK community is not given proper respect in comparison to crimes committed against white people... Example..it is only THI year that Charles Clarke has sucumb to considering the total ban of imitation arms and hand guns.. But how long have we said that should have happened..I know I've commented on this for at least four years.. why the delay.. when hungerford and dunblaine happened..legislation occured almost immediately.. over a 100 of our children get killed response zil!!! why the difference eh?

Toni Ann byfied is SHOT in the BACK by some scum... was she shot because she was BLACK or because she was in the WRONG place at the WRONG time.. but more importantly were is her killer, why hasn't he/she been caught.. could you imagine that being a WHITE child and no one being brought to book for THAT murder..come on..this for me is the biggest problem with labelling CRIME black on Black ...it gets swept under the carpet..we derserve better...

IYALLAH. · (#28 (**permalink**))

MURDER BLUES

MARCUS

I watched this and i agree with Kunjufu about this black on black label. As he said Kray / Jack the Ripper etc werent white on white killers?? I think they should refer to it as street killings.

Marcus Cox looked / was bad, and came across as a bit of a well known bully. You can see (trying not to ASSume) that Syrus was not really coming from that world, but was in it anyway. I dont believe he sold weed, as very few people can earn that much from weed that they would be kidnapped for 20K!! That is crack money?? Come on peeps!!

Now i think when Cox kidnapped Syrus that effected him deeply which is understood, because if you were kidnapped, maybe beat up / tortured / put in a position that you could not do anything...that would have terrible effects on you no matter who you are.

You would not be able to just go back onto the street where you know you can see these guys at anytime and leave yourself that exposed again. You will be mentally effected as even his mum stated.

Street being street, he most probably felt he HAD to do that kind of thing to A) save reputation and B) feel less vulnerable. Because you cant sell crack when everyone knows you have money and youve been kidnapped, because everyone would have a pop.

It is sad becasue i could look at him and see he could have been an intelligent brother doing something better with himself, but was most probably loving the money too much and got caught up into something he could not handle.

The friend who G'd him up got on my nerves, because he was really acting like he had nothing to do with it and was just an innocent party to it all ....taking the keys out of the car for safety....purleeeeeese!!

THE FOUR FINGERED MAN

one word......... GOOD!!

THE MAN THAT NEARLY GOT SHOT AT HIS DOOR

Please people dont be fooled. I know him personally and i could not believe he was on TV chatting such mess. He forgot to mention his part in his beef which had nothing to do with no cousin!!! He started the trouble first anf then it came back on him. He is a working man but blaitantly dabbles!

THE REST OF THE PROGRAMME

I found the policeman @ Trident very condescending too. "Do you know what Trident is?" "It helps stops little black boys killing each other!!" How can you say that!!! Isnt it for gun crime in general???

Did anyone see the black Trident officer put agun report telephone callon hold to ask the other officer why he never washed out his cup

(off topic) Why dont white people ever wash the cup when making another cup of tea in it???

EFENJEE / WEED

Now we dont always have to be so absolute, so it is not the case that every weed smoker will become metally ill or all mentally ill smoked weed.

BUT.. Weed has got a big influence over many that are mentally ill. Not everyone agrees with it, my 19 year old cousin being one. There was no mental illness in his family and a series of events + skunk bunning = him on medication.

Some people can drink every day, some people may smoke cigarettes every day but not get liver probs or lung cancer, but that doesnt mean that alcohol / cigarettes dont contribute to them. And there are still people that have never smoked in their life that can get lung cancer too, doesnt necessarily give cigarettes the thumbs up though does it?? Same with weed.

I think skunk definately effects people more, and i am saying that as a weed bunner myself! (so i am not being biased). I smoke much less than before ( once in a blue now), but even i recognised the changes eg paranoia / breathing / laziness etc, and i just cut it out. It can get you in a downward spiral, and a lot of people dont recognise the effects of weed simply because they bun on a daily basis. The only way to see the difference is not to smoke for a long time (month +) then compare.

Even if they are still productive, imagine how much more productive they would be if they werent smoking??

Think! · (#29 (**permalink**))

Murder BluesWed 28 Sep, 9:00 pm-10:00 pm60mins[/b]

Left for Dead

In a peaceful mews, 32-year-old Douglas Mullings is gunned down in front of his family as they get ready for church. Paramedics think Douglas will not live more than an hour.

As he clings to life in hospital, a Trident murder team takes the case. They need witnesses and, unusually, people are willing to talk. They saw Douglas confront a local street gang after someone bumped his car. As the argument escalated, the driver of the car made a call. Minutes later a masked gunman arrived and blew off the back of Douglas's head.

His wife Jennifer and stepdaughter Natalie were feet away. Their evidence helps the Trident team to track down Douglas's attackers. But can the women pick out the suspects in an ID parade? To convict the gunmen, Trident will need the courage of the family and other witnesses to speak out in court. After months of uncertainty, miraculously Douglas survives. But can he testify?

Contains some strong language and scenes that some viewers may find upsetting.

Think! · (#30 (**permalink**))

http://www.zionone.com/tv_story1.asp

LadyDay · (#31 (**permalink**))

yeah i seen it.

i am sure there is a thread on this already. will try locate it and merge unless drunk beats me to it

CashMoney · (#32 (**permalink**))

@ kumjufu

It was scary. In a perverse type of way, after hearing all that screaming and the gunshot I was almost glad that my tape ****ed up.

I mean, that guy with the shottie. So calm, no emotion. Run over, shoots him, runs away and then writes some ryhmes about it

Crazy!!!

CashMoney · (#33 (**permalink**))

Sods law. The most innteresting part so far and my tape ****s up!!!

As you can imagine I am not amused

What I did see was chilling. I feel sorry for the Mulllings family. I pnly saw 5 minutes.

If any1 can be bothered, pleasefeel me in on thre rest

My tape stopped when the daughter was talking about being hysterical

Kunjufu · (#34 (**permalink**))

Cashmoney: Just finished watching that episode and you know what, it really makes you want to hate your own people... I look at those stinking wretches and I feel bad thoughts..i'm glad they went down for life and i hope to god they serve every single day of that 25 year sentence..scum like that need to rot in prison..

The other thing thatis very frightening is that every incident that has been shown so far I have either worked or lived in the areas shown..... Last night was N17...I am so glad i decided to move out of THAT area..because too much of that stupidness is going on for my liking..too much..

Lovedaddy · (#35 (**permalink**))

Kunjufu wrote:

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Cashmoney: Just finished watching that episode and you know what, it really makes you want to hate your own people... I look at those stinking wretches and I feel bad thoughts..i'm glad they went down for life and i hope to god they serve every single day of that 25 year sentence..scum like that need to rot in prison..

The other thing thatis very frightening is that every incident that has been shown so far I have either worked or lived in the areas shown..... Last night was N17...I am so glad i decided to move out of THAT area..because too much of that stupidness is going on for my liking..too much..

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I agree with much of your sentiments apart from it wanting to make me hate my own people... that smacks a bit of Derek Laud's comment a whiloe back, but I completey understand where you're coming from...

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As for the sentencing, these guys should never, ever be allowed to leave prison; they should die inside, never seeing freedom again. Unfortunately, these scumbags will still be relatively young when they're released as they'll probably server no more than eleven years inside before they're eleigible for parole. Eleven years for destroying many lives.

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I have the utmost admiration for Mr Mullings asking for God to forgive them; I know I couldn't do it, and if someone did that to ANY memeber of my family, I would find it hard to let it go...

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To me, these b'stards represent the greatest threat to our community and all they stand for are anathama to me.

Kunjufu · (#36 (**permalink**))

LoveDaddy: you're right I should have qualified my comments and said SOME of my own people....

People talk about WHITE people as if THEY are the only enemy, but they are not, I agree with you Lovedaddy..these scumbags are the BIGGEST threat to our coummunity at this present moment and unless we do something...this shit will get worse...

Kunjufu · (#37 (**permalink**))

Black_power wrote:

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Kunjufu.....

What yould YOU have done in that particular situation??

Im aksing as you say that was your old area....so that could have easily been you,

was he riight to stand his ground like that?

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Black power: thats a damned good question, there was a time when I would have done what Mr Mullings did and come out swinging with both fists.... God knows the amount of times I've had to put the smack down on someone getting past their place with me on the street..

But now...I can honestly say that I wouldn't have bothered to argue with this disgusting scum...Because most people would have recognised them for what they were..and let it fly...I can repair a car, but you cannot repair the back of your head so easily..

My mantra has always been if I'm not prepared to finish it..then don't start.. The fact is and I'm not being critical here, but unless you're prepared to be as barbaric as these *******s my advice is to walk away...always..