Lets Put A Brother On Mars!

Breadfruit · (#1 (**permalink**))

Looking at technology as afundamentalin economic, social and political progress, are we lacking vision and thinking too much in reaction to white supremacy?

If so, (which I believe to be the case) maybe we need a project or aim that can not only free us, from the reactionary mental shackles imposed on us, but also inject new technologies that would place at the forefront of science and industry, by default.

I have never heard this been discussed before so this is probably another Blacknet first.

Let us begin to plan, to land an African on Mars, within the next 30 years.

This could be a project by joint African nations alongside Africans in Diaspora - we have the brains, Africa has all the material resources - so what stopping us going ahead?

Think about how such a feat would affect Africans the world over?

So lets start here, with say a feasibility study.

What say ye Blacknet; any Africans at NASA online?

ohgollyWTF · (#2 (**permalink**))

A beautiful thought. Why do we not try and achieve unity first, stabilise the African economy, end poverty and starvation, end rampant corruption? Surely, 'Putting a brother/sister on mars' would be a case of learning to fly before we can crawl, let alone walk?

CINQUE · (#3 (**permalink**))

Not trying to be funny breadfruit, but you want to put a man on mars, you won't see his ass no more. No human being can ever withstand the poisonous gases and radiation that eminates from this planet.

I get what you're saying though, maybe future technology will enable us to make extraordinary strides.

Breadfruit · (#4 (**permalink**))

ohgollyWTF wrote:

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A beautiful thought. Why do we not try and achieve unity first, stabilise the African economy, end poverty and starvation, end rampant corruption? Surely, 'Putting a brother/sister on mars' would be a case of learning to fly before we can crawl, let alone walk?

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The Soviet Union and the United States both had serious internal contradictions (Jim Crow in the US for example) but still developed their space programs.

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Surely we could move ours?????

Breadfruit · (#5 (**permalink**))

CINQUE wrote:

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Not trying to be funny breadfruit, but you want to put a man on mars, you won't see his ass no more. No human being can ever withstand the poisonous gases and radiation that eminates from this planet.

I get what you're saying though, maybe future technology will enable us to make extraordinary strides.

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@cinque

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African, could we not develop some technology that would cope with such operational problems?

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Many thought humans would never get to the moon, butwe did.

Mokele Mbembe · (#6 (**permalink**))

I was reading a bunch of western scientists recently objecting to America's desire to put men on Mars. It's pointless they say. Robots can find out the same thing that people can and for FAR FAR cheaper (no oygen, water, food, living space). It would be 100s of $billions.

Other things I think we should focus of. Better use of water and new purification methods as well as energy research would be a direction that would bear some fruit useful for Africans.

-Amt- · (#7 (**permalink**))

Dude brothers are pretty much already on mars

umbrarchist · (#8 (**permalink**))

@breadfruit
first you say:

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are we lacking vision and thinking too much in reaction to white supremacy?

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Let us begin to plan, to land an African on Mars, within the next 30 years.

I have been reading sci-fi since 1961. Haven't you seen movies with Whitey on Mars? You sound like you just want to imitate an ambition of the palefaces. You can't develop new technologies without understanding the fundamentals of the current stuff. How many Black people do you know that can do that?

That is why I keep trying to promote sci-fi for kids. Get their minds on the science technoly track while they are still in grammar school. These palefaces are just killing their curiosity making them memorized junk.

What did the moon program really accomplish? There were technological spinoffs like microelectronics because the government would pay for expensive chips in the early 60s that noone else would buy, but that could have been done without going to the moon.

umbrarchist

The Mighty Mos Def · (#9 (**permalink**))

umbrarchist wrote:

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You sound like you just want to imitate an ambition of the palefaces.[line]No disrespect to Breadfruit, because I understand the impetus of his post, but I tend to agree with you. We need to dream our own dream and create our own reality, so to speak.

At this time, I'm at a lost when attempting to find many tangible benefits for African/Black people, from furthering the modern day space program grandstanding, that Europeans and, to a lesser extent, Asians seem obsessed with doing. Fascinating? Yes. Helpful? Questionable, at best, unless you're talking of military advancement through an in-depth space program, then I would say: great, we need to have a African/Black military that is up to speed, in that regard.

As you say time and time again, our children need technological advancement, beginning very early on in life, and that's where our dollars need to be concentrated. When we get right in that regard, we won't need to talk of putting a African/Black man on the moon, our children , through their own curiosity, will take care of that, themselves.

Sooofresh · (#10 (**permalink**))

Breadfruit writes

LETS PUT A BROTHER ON MARS

Brother!

)))kiss teet((((

well us sisters we will put a Sister in venus...........and you are not invited Chumps!

and i bet you we would beat you to the challenge

)))kiss teet(((

chat about brother only.........even the westerners have women in space, but no no no, you only concern about self

Da_7thassasin · (#11 (**permalink**))

I like you thought process here. I'm a general science teacher and part time community advocate and I find that when people aim high like in the case of going to mars, people, particularly our people get to work and can get the job done.

From a technological standpoint I dissagree with others who feel that we aren't there technologically. We are there!

Currently there are many plans on the drawing board that will go into testing by 2010. The Russians, the USA and now the Chinese have the know that we could easily adapt for this endeavour. Poisonous gases but again, being on mars is no different than performing a space walk or visiting the International Space Station.

People talk of Unity first, sometimes working on such a tough task can form bonds needed to jumpstart this Unity.

We have People in the US, Nigeria and the caribbean who posess the science prowess to make it happen. Once we have the basic infrastructure in place we can buy technology and jump certain hurdles from the Chinese and cut out the costs associated with the learning curve regarding Space!

If not we can always build a training center in the kalahari and send him on the mission with the USA in 2020!

Mokele Mbembe · (#12 (**permalink**))

D7A

Feasability is not the problem. Going to Mars is not that difficult. Its the practicality of taking humans. The only reason would be to say that we did it. Which is pointless really. As I said before, why waste the extra money to go see what robots can see? Why risk lives for no reason or send people away for a long trip (it takes like 6 months just to get there) for no discernable reason.
Furthermore there is nothing to be learned from Mars (my opinion). It is a dead rock with a bit of ice. Big deal.
Now if you want to talk terraforming then that too need not involve people, since just this week certain people in NASA we talking about redirecting comets to smash into Mars so that ice and chemicals get busy in the atmosphere. Man... since it would take decades anyway it would have to be done remotely somehow. There is simply no need for people to be on Mars. It's a propoganda diversion of scientific mindsand funds.

SF
Venus is ridicolously hot (metals melt) and the pressure is silly too.Wouldnt see much through all the gasses anyway. Not pretty. Feminists welcome to go see for themselves though

j/k