Do you know your heroes?
Some are listed here....
http://www.medalofhonor.com/WorldWar...eceipients.htm

First, I am a Latino with a beautiful African American wife and children. I recently went to the medalofhonor.com website and learned some disturbing things. The American racist government of the 40's has supressed information about African American war heroes from ww2. The Latino heroes have been supressed too!
Many of these people did not get their medals until the 70's and 80's. Hmmm. Why didn't we hear about the tuskeegee airmen until a movie in the 90's??? They never lost a bomber they escorted! WOW!

The Black Panthers were a similar group! They just recently got their Presidential Unit Citation, the highest honor a unit can receive.

Black Panther Armor Brigade:
The 761st Tank Battalion, the first African American armored unit to enter combat. Assigned at various times to the Third, Seventh and Ninth armies, the Black Panthers fought major engagements in six European countries and participated in four major Allied campaigns, inflicting 130,000 casualties on the German army and capturing or destroying thousands of weapons, despite severe weather, difficult terrain, heavily fortified enemy positions, extreme shortages of replacement personnel and equipment, and an overall casualty rate approaching 50 percent.

And please go read about Vernon Baker.
More than 50 years after World War II ended, seven African American soldiers were awarded a congressional medal of honor. Only one of them is alive to tell his story, Vernon Baker, of northern Idaho.
Citation: For extraordinary heroism in action on 5 and 6 April 1945, near Viareggio, Italy. Then Second Lieutenant Baker demonstrated outstanding courage and leadership in destroying enemy installations, personnel and equipment during his company's attack against a strongly entrenched enemy in mountainous terrain. When his company was stopped by the concentration of fire from several machine gun emplacements, he crawled to one position and destroyed it, killing three Germans. Continuing forward, he attacked and enemy observation post and killed two occupants. With the aid of one of his men, Lieutenant Baker attacked two more machine gun nests, killing or wounding the four enemy soldiers occupying these positions. He then covered the evacuation of the wounded personnel of his company by occupying an exposed position and drawing the enemy's fire. On the following night Lieutenant Baker voluntarily led a battalion advance through enemy mine fields and heavy fire toward the division objective. Second Lieutenant Baker's fighting spirit and daring leadership were an inspiration to his men and exemplify the highest traditions of the Armed Forces.

And
Staff Sergeant Edward A. Carter, Jr.
General Order:
Citation: For extraordinary heroism in action on 23 March 1945, near Speyer, Germany. When the tank on which he was riding received heavy bazooka and small arms fire, Sergeant Carter voluntarily attempted to lead a three-man group across an open field. Within a short time, two of his men were killed and the third seriously wounded. Continuing on alone, he was wounded five times and finally forced to take cover. As eight enemy riflemen attempted to capture him, Sergeant Carter killed six of them and captured the remaining two. He then crossed the field using as a shield his two prisoners from which he obtained valuable information concerning the disposition of enemy troops. Staff Sergeant Carter's extraordinary heroism was an inspiration to the officers and men of the Seventh Army Infantry Company Number 1 (Provisional) and exemplify the highest traditions of the Armed Forces.

Spielberg can we see some movies about these people!


Paul X.

good post...

there were films and documentaries made about Black involvement in American wars..and quiet as kept and hidden in history...it was the Black vets returning from WW1 who really kicked off what became the civil rights movement.

they refused to go off to war to die..and coem back to jim crow treatment...

Great film about the Tuskegee Airmen that came out years ago...

good point of the thread..don't expect others to teach your children about themselves...especially not the children of the former slave owners..

Not just that,

But a little know military fact the most decorated unit in WWII was not the Black Panthers.....it wasn't the Tuskegee Airmen, it wasn't the 24th, or 25th (which firs got the name of cowards)......but it was a little known QuarterMaster unit in charge of the the Dirigibles. Keeping's those Dirigibles in the air was a vital Part tot he American victory on D-Day.

I know "OUR" heros. but MY hero is and always will be my father. He was was/is the most powerful man..with the most gentle hands that I know.

COL Glenn ****** USMC Ret.

My father.



PaRrIs

FIRST OF ALL I CONGRATULATE YOU ON KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMAN AND SUCH THAT FEW KNOW.

SECONDLY PARTICIPANTS IN THE ARMED FORCES ARE NOT OUR HEROES BE IT ANY RACE THEY ARE.

DURING WAR THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING THERE. ALL THEY KNOW IS WHAT THEY ARE TOLD BY THE ALL SO TRUEFUL AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.

IN A MATTER OF FACT IN THE MILLITARY THEY TEACH YOU NOT TO THINK BUT JUST LISTEN TO THEM AND DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD.

THEY ARE OUT KILLING PEOPLE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WHEN THEY SHOULD BE HELPING THEIR OWN IN THIS COUNTRY BY PRACTICING RIGHT KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM, AND OVERSTANDING.

In response to those that don't find people that risked their lives in world war 2 to defeat Hitler and the nazi's, heroes. A war that needed to be fought! They had to take lives to save my life! I suggest to you to teach your kids about other African American heroes, like Vivian Thomas....he saved millons of lives through his work. And again did not get recognition until years later. The white doctor made the cover of life magazine not Vivian!!!!!!!

My point is our kids don't learn about these heroes in school....they know who Dr J is but not Dr. Vivian Thomas. Our schools will not teach our kids about heroes and achievements from people of color....It's up to us as parents!

Vivien T. Thomas was a key player in pioneering the anastomosis of the subclavian artery to the pulmonary artery.The surgical work he performed with Alfred Blalock paved the way for the successful outcome of the Blalock-Taussig shunt.
[align=left]In January 1930, Vivien Thomas, a young African-American who was forced for lack of funds to leave his first year of college, came to work for Blalock in his laboratory. At that point Blalock's increasing obligations were cutting into the time he could spend in the laboratory and he needed a surgical assistant. A more fortunate choice could not have been made. Vivien Thomas learned to perform the surgical operations and chemical determinations needed for their experiments, to calculate the results, and to keep precise records; he remained an invaluable associate throughout Blalock's career.[/align]

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[align=left]Blalock and Thomas worked closely in the surgical laboratories. Thomas was a major contributor in the development of operative techniques. He and Blalock also collaborated on the design of surgical equipment. Shown here is a clamp for the temporary occlusion of the pulmonary artery, which was devised for Blalock's use by Vivien Thomas and William Longmire, working with the local surgical supply house Murray Baumgartner & Co.[/align]

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Photograph by Marjorie Winslow Kehoe, 1996[/align]

[align=left]Thomas supervised the surgical laboratories at Hopkins for over 35 years, and in 1976 he was appointed instructor in surgery at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In 1979, upon his retirement, he became instructor emeritus of surgery. Vivien Thomas's achievements were widely recognized by his colleagues. In 1976, he was awarded the honorary degree Doctor of Laws, by the Johns Hopkins University.
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YES I WILL AGREE IF YOU TALKING ABOUT OTHER HEROES OTHER THAN WAR. ALL OF THE WORLD WARS WAS A BIG MONEY MAKING AND PROPAGANDA SCHEME. AND THEN THE ENDING OFTHEM WAS MORE OF THE SAME THING.

IN ALOT OF WAYS THE ENDING CAME OUT TO BE GOOD BUT THE OVERALL INTENTIONS WERE NOT. IT WAS THE DEVIL FIGHTING THE DEVIL. JUST LIKE BUSH AND SADAAM.

BUT HITLER WAS JUST TOOK IT TOO FAR AND GOT KILLED.

Well Im not sure how many latinos and Af-Am people take this whole thing about heros. But as far as Im concerned, no one who goes to fight other nations in defence of this horrific capitalist country America can ever be a hero. Infact none of my family are revolutionaries but if they go to war for America in options that they can control I'll cut them off myself immediately. Secondly, in every situation America is loosing a war, even if it means the loss of the soldiers life is only a smile on my face. Because for every war it wins it means more power which means more deaths for Africans and other oppressed peoples and nations across the world.

So no they are not heros to me bcus they defended the number one oppressor country of our time, n neither do I wanna see a video about them, and I hope every young person of their nation would either learn to see them as traitors and enemies or weak souls that jumped the fence!



UHURU means FREEDOM!

Well let me make myself clear. I am only talking about world war 2 against the Nazi's. I cannot condone another war in any other theatre in the world. If Hitler would have won they would have killed all Latinos, Jews, Africans, Russians, Indians, Muslims, Asians, etc. They killed 10 million jews, but nobody talks about the 5 million colored people that were killed in the ovens......Indians, Africans, Gypsies, etc.
I encourage you to learn the history of the nazis. Because if you are a person other than aryan and the nazi's won, you would l be dead!

Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it!

My point is to teach our kids about heroes of color because they are continually suppressed in the schools and the media. And from the fanatics!

Whether it's Mandella, The Black Panthers, Vivian Thomas or others. But then someone once said....Hell is for heroes. HMMMM.

PUH LEEZEE

Every war America wins it is more deaths for Africans? What part of corporations do you not understand? Corporations are invading Africa not the US or western countries. Look at the diamond war in Sierra Leone, who brought in the mercs to protect their interests? Who did someone just say was the biggest employer of Africans? Western corporations. You keep looking at everything as a military campaign and your "enemy" has changed the game. While you are looking for a military attack, he has launched a financial and intellectual attack. Why conquer Africa with guns when you can with high priced fashionable products and the promise of an ok paying job?

You buy American products, you watch American tv, you wear American clothes, from what you were saying you mostly likely live in America and pay American taxes. So unless you are staying here and not working and living off the land, guess what? You are contributing to the ol' war machine. So not only are you linked to the military you are part of the machine and actually if you logically look at it the Africans based in Africa who do not work for you American or European companies should be feeling the same way about you.

You cannot be in the fishbowl and getting mad at someone else for crapping the water while you are pissing in it. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem.

I don't like the fact that we are at war with Iraq, but I really don't lose sleep over it either worrying about the poor old arabs because they never gave a damn about Africa. What arabic country have you ever heard of defend an African one?

For Africans or any other none US citizen to have that view I can see, but if you reside in this country you are helping the US whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

SO we all just need to form a therapy group and exhale LOL

THEY DIDNT NEED TO ENLIST IN THE MILLITARY. THE MOST HIGH WASNT GOING TO LET HITLER WIPE OUT PEOPLE OF COLOR MORE THAN JEWS.

THAT WOULDNT MAKE SENSE. IF A PERSON WOULD WANT TO BE AGAINST ELISTING IN THE MILLITARY FOR KEEPING THEIR RIGHT MIND AND LIVING A PEACEFUL LIFE THEN HITLER WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH EVEN MORE QUICK.

Guys,

To me heroes/heriones are people who have fought , died and still continue to the betterment of the lives of mankind. These are the people who was hosed down with water during the civil rights movement, the ones who fought for the rights for us to go attend/diversify schools( who mentioned VivianI, inventors....just about anything you can name to say that they are people who wanted a better quality of life for us and for mankind. You don't have to fight lietral wars to be a hero.