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Blackthought wrote: Quote: I think to me its where you draw a social boundary.... we as people tend to push the boundary of society.. thats why there is law and you have ppl trying to constantly break it.... Quote: Thats your opinion, but it REALLY isn't about that. Quote: What amazes me is that 20 years ago ... homosexuality wasn't widely accepeted in the society... soon as it was accepted.. what happened next... they start bringing it onto religion... now they want to get married... People wanting to get married isn't as a consequence of it being relatively more accepted in recent times. Its because they feel they no longer have to feel like pariahs andhave a little morefreedom to be who they are. Wanting to get 'married' or have a civil ceremony is just a way of showing their dedication to the person they love, may not be a 'normal' heterosexual relationship, but some people want a way of formalising their relationship and showing their commitment to each other. Now been gay isn't so cool and dangerous no more.... then you have a new trend BI-Sexual.... society accepted it to... but Nope the boundary needed to be pushed again.... You have BI-CURIOUS wtf ... errmmm... its seems like the IN thing now.... Being gay isn't cool lol. I don't know where you get that idea from cos I'm young and I don't think being gay is cool, and I don't know of any of my friends who do. Being bisexual isn't a trend either, onlyfor a small minority of people it might be. As for bi-curious lol, all that means is a person who isn't ready to accept that part of themselves and prefer the term 'curious' to make it sound less bad (thats what I think anyway). You have people now with both gender genitals.... Hemaphrodites? Some cross dressing men who sees themselve as women.... Lol, can't say I understand this one. Men with breast.... Gynecomastia?

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Quote: [line] Bro I am going on about people that get it done on purpose.... go to brazil and you have men that get breast implants... they get marrried to other men.. but the other men don't consider themselvesas straightwtf... confused3 People with two genitals can be a medical condition... but I am going on about ppl that are doing plastic surgery to have this done on purpose... When you look at it the original reason why people get married in religious term is to celeberate and bind two people of different sex together... i.e Man and Wife... (I don't want to get to deep in this.. its just long)... that is what the religion is about... so why would gay ppl go extra mile to get married and yet go against that same religion's belief... confused3

Definitions:
Homophobia, Heterosexism, and Sexual Prejudice








People with homosexual or bisexual orientations have long been stigmatized. With the rise of the gay political movement in the late 1960s, however, homosexuality's condemnation as immoral, criminal, and sick came under increasing scrutiny. When the American Psychiatric Association dropped homosexuality as a psychiatric diagnosis in 1973, the question of why some heterosexuals harbor strongly negative attitudes toward homosexuals began to receive serious scientific consideration.


Homophobia

Read interviews with
Dr. George Weinberg
from 1997 and
2000


Society's rethinking of sexual orientation was crystallized in the term homophobia, which heterosexual psychologist George Weinberg coined in the late 1960s. Weinberg used homophobia to label heterosexuals' dread of being in close quarters with homosexuals as well as homosexuals' self loathing. The word first appeared in print in 1969 and was subsequently discussed at length in Weinberg's 1972 book, Society and the Healthy Homosexual.
The American Heritage Dictionary (1992 edition) defines homophobia as "aversion to gay or homosexual people or their lifestyle or culture" and "behavior or an act based on this aversion." Other definitions identify homophobia as an irrational fear of homosexuality.



Heterosexism

Herek, 1990). Using the term heterosexism highlights the parallels between antigay sentiment and other forms of prejudice, such as racism, antisemitism, and sexism.
Like institutional racism and sexism, heterosexism pervades societal customs and institutions. It operates through a dual process of invisibility and attack. Homosexuality usually remains culturally invisible; when people who engage in homosexual behavior or who are identified as homosexual become visible, they are subject to attack by society.
Examples of heterosexism in the United States include the continuing ban against lesbian and gay military personnel; widespread lack of legal protection from antigay discrimination in employment, housing, and services; hostility to lesbian and gay committed relationships, recently dramatized by passage of federal and state laws against same-gender marriage; and the existence of sodomy laws in more than one-third of the states.

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By drawing popular and scientific attention to antigay hostility, the creation of these terms marked a watershed. Nevertheless, they have important limitations.
Critics have observed that homophobia is problematic for at least two reasons.
Shields & Harriman, 1984).
Second, using homophobia implies that antigay prejudice is an individual, clinical entity rather than a social phenomenon rooted in cultural ideologies and intergroup relations. Moreover, a phobia is usually experienced as dysfunctional and unpleasant. Antigay prejudice, however, is often highly functional for the heterosexuals who manifest it.
As antigay attitudes have become increasingly central to conservative political and religious ideologies since the 1980s, these limitations have become more problematic. However, heterosexism, with its historic macro-level focus on cultural ideologies rather than individual attitudes, is not a satisfactory replacement for homophobia.
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Sexual Prejudice

Herek, 2000).
Like other types of prejudice, sexual prejudice has three principal features:

• It is an attitude (i.e., an evaluation or judgment).
• It is directed at a social group and its members.
• It is negative, involving hostility or dislike.

Conceptualizing heterosexuals' negative attitudes toward homosexuality and bisexuality as sexual prejudice – rather than homophobia – has several advantages. First, sexual prejudice is a descriptive term. Unlike homophobia, it conveys no a priori assumptions about the origins, dynamics, and underlying motivations of antigay attitudes.
Second, the term explicitly links the study of antigay hostility with the rich tradition of social psychological research on prejudice.

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Herek, G. M. (2000). The psychology of sexual prejudice. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 9, 19-22. [Back to text]
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Shields, S. A., & Harriman, R. E. (1984). Fear of male homosexuality: Cardiac responses of low and high homonegative males. Journal of Homosexuality, 10(1/2), 53-67. [Back to text]
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Russengo, I hope you realise those definitions are a joke well two out of the three at least....

Simply pro gay propaganda the way I read it not authorative in any way.


Do you know for everyone of these pro gay authorities anybody canpost 10 from an opposingview. I havebooks here on the medicalisation strategies used by gays to obtain influence eg turning homophobia into apsychological and some gay activists scholars go as far as suggest it is a mentalcondition. It is called normalising tactics you the minority created definitions which normalise you and render abnormal the majority. This is stale man, radical feminist done tried this and failed. Have you ever read the way the arbitarily use the term mysoginist which actually and literally means the hatred of women. Once you established an erroneous definition then you can advance even more spurious concepts in attempts to beef it up...



Old moves homeboy very old and tired moves.


It is called the marginal and abnormal attempting to use psuedo science to problemitise the majority and think by using fancy labels we cannot see what they are attempting to do. So bro if all you are going to do is post stuff like this you might as well shut this thread down.

I noticed as on the other thread when you are confronted head on in argument you switch tact and try something else.

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Whilst I wouldn't equate gay rights and black rights, I honestly think that many people spend way too much time fretting about what 2adults do sexually in the privacy of their own home. I don't care what they do, they are consenting adults and they are not hurting me so why would I be upset by them? Having them visible in society is not damaging (society isalready damaged and most of them are still in the closet)and will not turn your children gay!

We wouldn't likestrangers, let alone our own family and friends,to make judementsabout what we do in bed so whyshould we dictate what 2 men or 2 women can do behind closed doors? I'd be more upset if thosemen were peddling drugs orrappingabout how their going to killother'ni***rsandbeat'b**ches' than if they were kissing up in their own yard'.

@Babygirl agreed but contradiction if that was the case he would seen no need to set up a thread and want to proseltyse and argue and keep it private.

So your comment does not relate to the facts. He started the thread and must have wanted to debate or why create it. When he could do as you say. Think you have the horse by the tail...

Futhermore in my eye this is a discussion about his claims eg heterosexualism as an ideology is nonsense. Factually and conceptually.

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I keep hearing this argument, why do people worry about what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home.

7:00pm or 7:30pm, at home, telly's on and kids running around in the house, 5 year old little boy stops to see whats on tv. Emerdale farm is on. Little boy stops just in time to see two men kissing on tv.

Now are homosexuals really harmless ?

So now I have to explain to this 5 year old, that these people are wicked and when he gets older I will explain to him more why they are wicked and evil people. And that a man is made to be with a woman/ vica versa.

You stay there, Little leaven, leaven the whole lump.