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FredB · (#51 (**permalink**))

@Russengo. You keep hiding comments within my text and I keep missing them as I only pop in quickly during working breaks. You see I use you argument to show other black people how you or particular groups of black people think.

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Your guess can only be as good as hisif he hasn't got anyevidences, have you got evidences that he was not?

So if black men are not shagging everything one with two legs then they must be gay.Right?Which is why he tried to the same trick but attempted to suggest Malcolm X was gay,

Again, in your twisted homophobic mind any black hero has to be in your mind something that you want him to be,whatever you know about those two, you read, you have no evidences on what they did in their privacy, so Tatchell can as well be right like you can be wrong!
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Do you know why people like you always fail to influence or impress black people because most of you are ignorant of the very thing you claim to stand for or believe. I know nothing about sleeping with men or the same sex but I know how they politically and strategically operate.

Have you read Tatchells official CV I have a copy and on it it starts with two columns one with what the gay press and its supporters say about him in headlines the other what his detractors say about him including leading national papers.

One thing all his enemies say about him is his is un unethical liar and will use any dirty moves to gain advantage and one of them which he first used on whites was the smear. He smeared many priests who were not homosexual and quite admant against it by starting a whispering campagin about them. There is a wicked book by a gay scholar on the history of homophobia when he shows how whispering tactics were used on men who were batchellors or single throughout the ages. That is the tactic Tatchell mastered against his enemies.

And this is the man you and your kind back again and again against black people as your words clearly show. So explain this to me if homosexuality is minority phenomenon why would I or any reasonable thinking person assume married men who have shown no evidenc of this proclivity are gay and that should be my normal working assumption. Not that some are but the majority are.

You are talking shite. I am a married man do most people assume I am gay. Fool....and by the same token we should acccept Tatchels slurs, especially given his track record of lies?. Do you know the lies that man told on Sizzla Kolanji and others. That man is black people's ENEMY. My whole atttitude to the dancehall issue changed when I sat down and did my research and saw how dirty and nasty that man is, but that is whose word you will take over Malcolm X and those who knew him.

Boy you are lost for real. So if Tatchell said I was gay and my wife said what the **** XYZ you would take his word.

You are the best example of why you will always remain frustrated and angry not only for your irrationality and personal confusion but without white gays you have no self identity.

To mention and support a man who is one of our most vicious enemies to date. A man who went to the Home Secretary not once or twice trying to pin murder charges on Binnie Man and others who had absolutely nothing to do with his lies. Even the British police after Tatchell used them once and they realised it was pure lies when he came again and try to blame Sizzla as a murderer the British police contradicted him.

When he attempted to claim Sizzla's music had influenced the murder of David Morley in Soho the police was out fast and said there is no connection between the two because they were being used and I interiewed ex collleagues in the force and don't even mention Tatchells name for them.

David Morley was murdered by a group of so called Happy Slappers led by a girl and the worst beating he took was from her and a white guy and his friend who was there and attacked said so in his testimony and not led by black people or the black guy who was with them.

And this is the man whose words you want to support and think you and your batty boy firends will find any friends amongst intelligent and knowledgable black people....

Do you know why that campaign ended. Because Tatchell went too far and jeopardised the lives of the token black gays they used. The so called Black Males Gay Advisory Service who was a front for Tatchell and black men hooding or being hooded by whites who they pushed up front when the shit was getting too hot to bring some colour to hide what was going on.

JFlag in Jamaica which all of a sudden got chest did a massive U turn when they realised who this Tatchell was and what nastiness he was going on with. My close people talked and advised them. That is why they put out a statement saying there is no evidence suggesting dancehall leads to murder which sunk Tatchell's boat and because of the pressure in this country their black Gay front lost their bottle because they realise that this was a deadly game and just like JA they were putting their lives at risk not Tatchell.

Do you know how people feel when they find out pure lies are being used against people like Sizzla. People will gun you down straight if they find them. That is what broke the back of that campagin what would happen when black people get mad. That is the time you will see people hunting gays.

We have been attempting to contact the BGMAS. You know what they shut down and ran. Because it was a front and some of us worked it out in a second because we have been dealing with these people and know how they flex. They published the statement saying the campaign was over and in effect the lost and gained not one of their list of demands and shut down their site. Even today they will not return mail or calls and want us to believe this was a genuine bone fide organisation representing black Gays...

Boy you are a joke.

Dream on.

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FredB · (#52 (**permalink**))

@BM as they say how can you go and kiss her and come and kiss me with the same mouth? You may well have a point bro....

But a man can be ignorant, ill informed or just plain straight up dishonest but once you cross a clear line eg supporting Tatchell in his slurs then you align yourself with the enemy. Discussion done.....

I don't ever reason with an enemy as to do so shows I lack intelligence. Once people behave like an enemy then you go home and start doing the work needed to fix them one way or another be it intellectually or practically when that day comes....

Like so called black radical feminists once we see them lining up on white women or men's platforms or rushing to be the only black face in white people's books to diss black people.

No argument we just go home and do the work which is why not one of them can come here with that European and western radical feminist shite because they will be gunned down. STRAIGHT We have 20 years at least start on them of working out everything about how they move and operate.

Let's hear how my man response to this Tatchell issue which will determine whether I shall continue to give him the courteousy of calling him a "brother". Because in all categories of people they are those who are bright and those who are dumb.

I have already seen my man talk about Stonewall which is white western gays and their activities and nothing to do with Africans be they gay or not. So lets see how far the white man has his thing up this one.....

Like so called black radical feminists they can't enter a room without bringing the white gal with them. I wonder when they look in the mirror what stares back at them.....

Nothing probably.

Peace.

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Rusengo · (#53 (**permalink**))

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@Russengo. You keep hiding comments within my text and I keep missing them as I only pop in quickly during working breaks. You see I use you argument to show other black people how you or particular groups of black people think.

You said "

Your guess can only be as good as hisif he hasn't got anyevidences, have you got evidences that he was not?

So if black men are not shagging everything one with two legs then they must be gay.Right?Which is why he tried to the same trick but attempted to suggest Malcolm X was gay,

Again, in your twisted homophobic mind any black hero has to be in your mind something that you want him to be,whatever you know about those two, you read, you have no evidences on what they did in their privacy, so Tatchell can as well be right like you can be wrong!
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Do you know why people like you always fail to influence or impress black people because most of you are ignorant of the very thing you claim to stand for or believe. I know nothing about sleeping with men or the same sex but I know how they politically and strategically operate.

Have you read Tatchells official CV I have a copy and on it it starts with two columns one with what the gay press and its supporters say about him in headlines the other what his detractors say about him including leading national papers.

One thing all his enemies say about him is his is un unethical liar and will use any dirty moves to gain advantage and one of them which he first used on whites was the smear. He smeared many priests who were not homosexual and quite admant against it by starting a whispering campagin about them. There is a wicked book by a gay scholar on the history of homophobia when he shows how whispering tactics were used on men who were batchellors or single throughout the ages. That is the tactic Tatchell mastered against his enemies.

And this is the man you and your kind back again and again against black people as your words clearly show. So explain this to me if homosexuality is minority phenomenon why would I or any reasonable thinking person assume married men who have shown no evidenc of this proclivity are gay and that should be my normal working assumption. Not that some are but the majority are.

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My answer is still the same, how would I know that he's right or you are wrong if any of you has noevidences on that?

You are talking sh*te. I am a married man do most people assume I am gay. Fool....and by the same token we should acccept Tatchels slurs, especially given his track record of lies?. Do you know the lies that man told on Sizzla Kolanji and others. That man is black people's ENEMY. My whole atttitude to the dancehall issue changed when I sat down and did my research and saw how dirty and nasty that man is, but that is whose word you will take over Malcolm X and those who knew him.

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you are the one who brought Tatchell here, aren't you? I don't know the guy and I don't know what he does, whatever I say here has nothing to do with him but if whatever he says has some evidences to back him up and you don't why wouldn't I believe him?

Boy you are lost for real. So if Tatchell said I was gay and my wife said what the f**k XYZ you would take his word.

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It's all down to evidences, if you were seen on your knees s*cking a guy's dick and people had proof of that, yes!

You are the best example of why you will always remain frustrated and angry not only for your irrationality and personal confusion but without white gays you have no self identity.

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Oh! you are so wrong, my friend, so wrong! you are the one who's angry as I said before, keeping calling people your enemy because you never had the opportunity to live in a country where you can you look at yourself and say "this is my country" in Jamaica you are a black africanman of slave descent, here in the UK, you are a black british of West indian origin, and you dare to talk about "identity" laughable. I can go back to 10 generations of my ancestors, all kings who are the founder of Burundi, my country, when i amin Burundi, I know that that's my roots, understand,ROOTS!!! what have you got? cotton picker? don't you ever think that with your Malcom X sh*t talk or threats of gunning me down, you scare me! bullets cannot erase my beliefs, and intellectual diarreah doesn't work with me! I have no time but I'll come back! Connard!

To mention and support a man who is one of our most vicious enemies to date. A man who went to the Home Secretary not once or twice trying to pin murder charges on Binnie Man and others who had absolutely nothing to do with his lies. Even the British police after Tatchell used them once and they realised it was pure lies when he came again and try to blame Sizzla as a murderer the British police contradicted him.

When he attempted to claim Sizzla's music had influenced the murder of David Morley in Soho the police was out fast and said there is no connection between the two because they were being used and I interiewed ex collleagues in the force and don't even mention Tatchells name for them.

David Morley was murdered by a group of so called Happy Slappers led by a girl and the worst beating he took was from her and a white guy and his friend who was there and attacked said so in his testimony and not led by black people or the black guy who was with them.

And this is the man whose words you want to support and think you and your batty boy firends will find any friends amongst intelligent and knowledgable black people....

Do you know why that campaign ended. Because Tatchell went too far and jeopardised the lives of the token black gays they used. The so called Black Males Gay Advisory Service who was a front for Tatchell and black men hooding or being hooded by whites who they pushed up front when the sh*t was getting too hot to bring some colour to hide what was going on.

JFlag in Jamaica which all of a sudden got chest did a massive U turn when they realised who this Tatchell was and what nastiness he was going on with. My close people talked and advised them. That is why they put out a statement saying there is no evidence suggesting dancehall leads to murder which sunk Tatchell's boat and because of the pressure in this country their black Gay front lost their bottle because they realise that this was a deadly game and just like JA they were putting their lives at risk not Tatchell.

Do you know how people feel when they find out pure lies are being used against people like Sizzla. People will gun you down straight if they find them. That is what broke the back of that campagin what would happen when black people get mad. That is the time you will see people hunting gays.

We have been attempting to contact the BGMAS. You know what they shut down and ran. Because it was a front and some of us worked it out in a second because we have been dealing with these people and know how they flex. They published the statement saying the campaign was over and in effect the lost and gained not one of their list of demands and shut down their site. Even today they will not return mail or calls and want us to believe this was a genuine bone fide organisation representing black Gays...

Boy you are a joke.

Dream on.

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FredB · (#54 (**permalink**))

@Russengo Man you are on something...

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"you are the one who brought Tatchell here, aren't you? I don't know the guy and I don't know what he does, whatever I say here has nothing to do with him but if whatever he says has some evidences to back him up and you don't why wouldn't I believe him?

Boy you are lost for real. So if Tatchell said I was gay and my wife said what the f**k XYZ you would take his word.

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It's all down to evidences, if you were seen on your knees s*cking a guy's dick and people had proof of that, yes!

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Tell me something for real. Can you read English or is someone interpreting for you. Because if the latter sack them because they are selling you short.

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And that is the positive alternative. If you can read then things are even more serious than i thought. You seem not to be able to think logically or extend a point from a straight forward premise which has nothiing to do with schooling just natural intelligence. School kids do it every day in primary school.

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You seem to go off at all tangients which has nothing to do with basic intelligence or responding to what has been put to you in simple language.

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I said to you this Tatchell man has not one jot of evidence to support his allegations and what do you come back with, if I was seen sucking off a man's dick. No bro that is homo activity and your department and has absolutely nothing to what is being argued. If that was the case that would constitute some damn good evidence....You plank..

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But hey that is how you flex when confronted with a bridge that looks impassible. What ever flies your kite friend....

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You are the best example of why you will always remain frustrated and angry not only for your irrationality and personal confusion but without white gays you have no self identity.

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'Oh! you are so wrong, my friend, so wrong! you are the one who's angry as I said before, keeping calling people your enemy because you never had the opportunity to live in a country where you can you look at yourself and say "this is my country" in Jamaica you are a black africanman of slave descent, here in the UK, you are a black british of West indian origin, and you dare to talk about "identity" laughable. I can go back to 10 generations of my ancestors, all kings who are the founder of Burundi, my country, when i amin Burundi, I know that that's my roots, understand,ROOTS!!! what have you got? cotton picker? don't you ever think that with your Malcom X sh*t talk or threats of gunning me down, you scare me! bullets cannot erase my beliefs, and intellectual diarreah doesn't work with me! I have no time but I'll come back! Connard!
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Gosh the man has blown a brain vessell....confused3

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I use the term enemy in its precise useage. Excuse me why does the term indicate anger. Or is your vocublary so limited? You are one of those two guage cyborgs on and off. Just been watching so some sci fi film with my son aboutalien spiders fighting earth and the humans refered to thegiant spiders as the enemy.Were the generals angry? No pretty precise because the alien spiders were eating them and whole.

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You need some education friend and some emotional or sometraining or somethingto stop jumping around intellectually in this irrational manner. Same thing I jackedyou up on when Kunjufu challenged you to a straight argument........

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I amtrying to work out the leap from enemy to youpressumptions of where I am from...seemsbizzarre to me how you make these conclusions never mind connections. For your information I am born in the Caribbean in my own country on my people' s landand have owned it for several hundred years.....About not having my own country...Hey have you any schools where you are from because you need to start take that opportunity....confused3

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Well first thing my friend you obviously know little enough about most things, but definitely identity. A person could be born in an urban gutter and still have a clearer and stronger self identity than you wherever you are born. Where you are born is no reflection of your intelligence and how you make sense of your conditions, history or so called identity....

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Of course you come from Kings don't evey one who comes from the contient come from Kings or do you think this is the 18th century and you are talking to dumb whites.....

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Hey you may even come from Kings assuming that we are foolish enough to not know what that means. When I said I studied Anthropology we of course know that all African kings were of the highest calibre and the epitomose of civilisation and moral pedigree....Boy you are fool...

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Hey even if you were from a line of kings being a homosexual...quickly puts an end to that does it not you jerk.....

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You talk of roots when it is clear you are fundamentally confused about what and who you are. Not something I suffer from. You talk whitewestern foolishness, you promote their madness andrhetoric which would get you stoned in your own society and you want to preach to me about roots.....?

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Your a typical worse type of woman for real the worse. There are women who no matter what level of education, men too but nuff women I have gone out with who you remind me of. You actually feel more empowered when you are cussing and acting all ugly and in fact will desperately reach and creatively interpret whatever is said stretching like rubberman to grasp or cling onto anything to divert serious discussion so you can start going on like a bitch.....About me threatening to gun you...Are you an imbecile or something....or do not know what a metaphor is or a figurative comment is.....

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You would love to hold onto that to divert the fact that in basic intelligence you are humiliating yourself or any sensible argument you would wish to advance...Bredrin you are being gunned to pieces long time,taken apart systematically by simple basic questions......

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God talk about a martry complex..."Bullets cannot erase your beliefs...You queen....You remind me of that gay Daffyd in Little Britain the wannabe martyr who gets off on being the only gay in the village full of homosexuals. Hey beliefs are free you know....It is the proving of the cogency of those beliefs that you somehow have major difficulty with...

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I mean why do you come here and start a thread which you do not have the basic competence to develop in any meaningful way?...Are you people all exhibitionists or something?

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In fact you are demonstrating not only basic disrepsect for yourself, your bad..but other members here who have intelligent and reasonable objections and questions and this is all you bring to the party....you po pimp as they say in the US, better off staying at home and buy yourself a can of beer me thinks....

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Finally, about cotton picking....Well you sure don't know much about history or geography nevermind matters of sexuality other than having your butt stretched. As they say in social science Being and Knowing are two different things...You are homosexual, but you no **** all to be able to lead this thread in any serious and educational way which would serve your purposes never mind shed our collective ignorance.

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About cotton picking. Well we don't do much of that in the Caribbean and sea cotton is the feild of fisherman...So I have just increased your knowledge quotient by one morsell.........

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But let me say this, probably more greater Africans have their orignins in cotton feilds or their families probably than your whole country put togheter 20 times....Tell me who of any significance has come from Burundi but I would be here all day you ignorant speck if I was to take South Carolina alone in the US never mind the rest of the southern States....You brainless imbecille. Do you have anybody the stature of Prof John Hope Franklin, Prof John H Clarke they come from them backgrounds you retard....

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But let's stop here my gymn is calling me and on principle I never enter a emotional brawling and screaming contest with women...but at least there is usally some potential benefit afterwards...with those kind of passionate hot headed types..But in your case no can do.....

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Look let's stop this "debate" you are wasting my time as my son and nephew who are little children have more intelligence than you in rational and critical thinking and argument development...

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Peace....

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Kunjufu · (#55 (**permalink**))

Fred:Your conversation with Ruesengo illustrates perfectly the dishonesty of this gay contingent, Ruesengo often states tha I'm being rude by questioning his intelligence, however isn't it clear that I'm in fact being factual when i call him Stupid:isn't also a fact that he equally doesn't have an original thought in his body and relies instead on ready made ill considered mantra of others to speak for him....hence every time he is called upon to go below the surface of his argument, ruesengo time and time again fails to deliver
But the again what else should i expect from someone who demostrates the level of anaylsis of a piece wood.....

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#56 (**permalink**))

Oh my god...this is hilarious...

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Boy you are lost for real. So if Tatchell said I was gay and my wife said what the f**k XYZ you would take his word.

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It's all down to evidences, if you were seen on your knees s*cking a guy's dick and people had proof of that, yes!

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Tell me something for real. Can you read English or is someone interpreting for you. Because if the latter sack them because they are selling you short.

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And that is the positive alternative. If you can read then things are even more serious than i thought. You seem not to be able to think logically or extend a point from a straight forward premise which has nothiing to do with schooling just natural intelligence. School kids do it every day in primary school.

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FredB wrote:

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You seem to go off at all tangients which has nothing to do with basic intelligence or responding to what has been put to you in simple language.

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I said to you this Tatchell man has not one jot of evidence to support his allegations and what do you come back with, if I was seen sucking off a man's dick.

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Your a typical worse type of woman for real the worse. There are women who no matter what level of education, men too but nuff women I have gone out with who you remind me of. You actually feel more empowered when you are cussing and acting all ugly and in fact will desperately reach and creatively interpret whatever is said stretching like rubberman to grasp or cling onto anything to divert serious discussion so you can start going on like a b**ch.....About me threatening to gun you...Are you an imbecile or something....or do not know what a metaphor is or a figurative comment is.....

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Bredder Tukoma · (#57 (**permalink**))

Fred

You must have the patience of Job himself.

AS for this little faggot speaking about cotton pickers? Man this bitch needs a slap..not even a punch just slap the bitch with the back of your hand. These people are really something else...confused3twisted nasty little mofo..

FredB · (#58 (**permalink**))

@Kunjufu...sometimes bro you just have to go through the motions to reveal what you already know and can sniff a mile off.

Brother can't say he wasn't given a chance to explain himself. Not that he has to persuade people why he is gay or whatever. Not the issue but his other various agendas and he makes no sense whatsover and when conveinient can get irrational like mad.

@Mansa..me done bro...Know when to call it a day and when nothing to gain and just wasting effort and time.

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