THE N-WOrd Documentary - Page 2

Blackthought · (#26 (**permalink**))

Kunjufu wrote:

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Blackthought: I'm glad tht you did well...however two points..you didn't really answer my question honestly.....now come on now honest answer please..

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What didn't I answer.. you asked me a question saying supposedly.... and both the question you asked relate to me becuase I used the N-Word when I was young.... and it didn't affect me...... why use an instance when I can use facts.... and NO I don't see myself as an exception... I didn't do nothing that any black person can't/hasn't achieved....

second point would you say hand on HEART are you exception or the RULE when we talk about people cleaving to the N-word, again honest answer please...

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Aforementioned to you Kunjufu... I understand your stand on the word... but difference is I don't feel as strongly as you or other members of BNabout it (reasons I mentioned above).... whether you accept it or not.. well thats down to you...

Abissinia · (#27 (**permalink**))

Thoth B3 wrote:

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What we as men, especially Black men, do not realize is that younger males are looking at us as examples. Even if you don't want to be a role model, you are for African society. You are basically saying that saying the N-word does not apply to you because you came up fine. I would say that isn't the case for too many of our brothers, and by you taking ona Western attitude of individualism

does not really help either, because, again, people watch you whether you think so or not.

clp)clp)

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Abstract · (#28 (**permalink**))

I don't use the term much myself- I think it sounds a bit 'gangster rapper wannabe'

However, you guys have forgot to mention the positive aspect the n-word can be. As africans we have taken a hugely derogative term that is associated with massive historical pain and retaken 'ownership' of it. We can now use the term as endearment and even in the comapany of anglos we use it but they know that they cannot repeat it.

I think its powerful that we have asserted ownership of the word.

Soulstarr · (#29 (**permalink**))

There was recently a channel 4 Schools Documentary on this topic with Asher D going around the country researching the impact it had on people and he interviewed a group of kids. Quite heartbreaking really to know that kids as your and 5 were experiencing racism through the use of a word that too many black people are throwing around too loosly.

slightlyofftopic.gif, but we had a debate about this in one of my seminars and soneone said that there was a prophet in the bible called "niga"where the name "******" orginated from. The guy that said it is usually quite well versed on these subject but i'm not so sure about that theory. can anyone shed some light?

Kibibi · (#30 (**permalink**))

stick-upKid wrote:

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I don't use the term much myself- I think it sounds a bit 'gangster rapper wannabe'

However, you guys have forgot to mention the positive aspect the n-word can be. As africans we have taken a hugely derogative term that is associated with massive historical pain and retaken 'ownership' of it. We can now use the term as endearment and even in the comapany of anglos we use it but they know that they cannot repeat it.

I think its powerful that we have asserted ownership of the word.

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How can you 'retake' something that did not belong to you in the first place?

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Why would you want to own something that was used whilst raping and murdering your ancestors, not to mention it was and is used to degrade you? Really, why would you? Is it not better to DESTROY what intends to cause harm (whether it be verbal, physical or mental).

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*Why do people keep putting forward these ludicrous arguments. Would you honestly

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tell Jewish people to 'reclaim' and take 'ownership' of the Swatiska??

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*Edited to add: DESTROYING something so that it is neither owned by the originators and the fools who carry it on, is REAL power! ...Thinking about it it's like saying African people should just overtake the oppressive system Europeans have created, instead of destroying it...but how would that benefit the world???

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Soulstarr · (#31 (**permalink**))

BlackBeauty wrote:

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*Why do people keep putting forward these ludicrous arguments. Would you honestly you tell Jewish people to 'reclaim' and take 'ownership' of the Swatiska??

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clp)clp)clp)

Mezmerized · (#32 (**permalink**))

stick-upKid wrote:

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I don't use the term much myself- I think it sounds a bit 'gangster rapper wannabe'

However, you guys have forgot to mention the positive aspect the n-word can be. As africans we have taken a hugely derogative term that is associated with massive historical pain and retaken 'ownership' of it. We can now use the term as endearment and even in the comapany of anglos we use it but they know that they cannot repeat it.

I think its powerful that we have asserted ownership of the word.

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***sigh*** Now, what are we gone do with the likes of you heh?? come here.....hhead

Blackthought · (#33 (**permalink**))

BlackBeauty wrote:

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Kunjufu wrote:

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Blackthought: really!!!!!

I believe in systemic theories..ie i believe everything is interlinked and wired to each other.....therefore I see the knowledge of self as fundamental to how I exist and how i relate to others... No way can anything be more important that the focus on what is our rightful name, and ejecting the language of the oppressor out of my thinking...

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clp)I dont understand why some people cannot see the logic.

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Please don't mix emotion with logic....

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Blackthought · (#34 (**permalink**))

Thoth B3 wrote:

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Blackthought wrote:

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So in other words u believe Greed(individualism) is in all men and exist in different society... but it tends to show more in the Western society....which in other case is not really a western attitude.... its more of human being attitude....

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Greed is a human attribute, but the individualism that results from greed is certainly a Western virtue; hence why Capitalism was born in the West. To summarize, greed is human nature, but individualism is learned.

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--Thoth B3

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Interesting can you give me some characteristic or better yet define.. it for me

Abstract · (#35 (**permalink**))

Mezmerized wrote:

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stick-upKid wrote:

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I don't use the term much myself- I think it sounds a bit 'gangster rapper wannabe'

However, you guys have forgot to mention the positive aspect the n-word can be. As africans we have taken a hugely derogative term that is associated with massive historical pain and retaken 'ownership' of it. We can now use the term as endearment and even in the comapany of anglos we use it but they know that they cannot repeat it.

I think its powerful that we have asserted ownership of the word.

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***sigh*** Now, what are we gone do with the likes of you heh?? come here.....hhead

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You guys Soulstar Blackbeauty and Mesmerising give me pure jokes... proper womans point of view.

I see you all your points but, like I said i don't use the term but some of my 'homies' do and it doesn't offend me... why should it offend me, they are my boys are'nt they.

Of course its different when anglos use it- That is the important point:
Anglos will always revert to using the term for whtever f*cking reason. YOU CAN NOT STOP THAT EVER!!!!!!.. you cannot just "destroy it"...its a nice sentiment to think you can...but a SENTIMENT none the less.