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I would try to play DA, but I love the man, so I can't. LOL
I wish he and Dr. King had sat down and approached this the right way. Shabazz's way would have lead to armed clashes which I know would have ended like Tulsa in 1920 when we were bombed and we see what MLKs way got us......weak leaders and 50 cent.
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 , thanks for the love,Mez. I'm serious as a heart attack about Malcolm. In reality he had 6 daughters, but I consider myself his 7th one. Not biologically, but idealogically. I hate to see him misrepresented or played to be something that he was not. People then and now talk out of their ass about him, and don't even KNOW what he actually said. Never even took the time to listen or read what the man actually SAID. They know what white folks SAY he said, or what UncleTom Negroes SAY he said, or what liberal /conservative media people with certain agendas SAY he said.It annoys me to no end.
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10-02-06, 09:36 PM
Excellent post GM.clp)
My sister and I have always been drawn to Malcolm X as a leader/fighter in the African struggleand you pinpointed many reasons why.
And there is so much that I still do not know about him!
One of myfavourite quotes:
"It doesn't mean that I advocate violence, but at the same time, I am not against using violence in self-defense. I don't call it violence when it's self-defense, I call it intelligence."
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, thanks for the love,Mez. I'm serious as a heart attack about Malcolm. In reality he had 6 daughters, but I consider myself his 7th one. Not biologically, but idealogically. I hate to see him misrepresented or played to be something that he was not. People then and now talk out of their ass about him, and don't even KNOW what he actually said. Never even took the time to listen or read what the man actually SAID. They know what white folks SAY he said, or what UncleTom Negroes SAY he said, or what liberal /conservative media people with certain agendas SAY he said.It annoys me to no end.
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I think we are stuck in a delusion where we want our leaders to speak, but NOT really too loud! Thats why people say things like he would have brought misery because of his so called violence teachings. Funny thing is, we have people back in the Continet who up this day BLAME Lumumba for THAT speech during our "independence"from Belgium when he let it all out about the atrocities they comitted against us. The funny thing is, these kinds of people all have one thing in common: FEAR! Yet because they think they dodged Moraccan border guards to get to Europe or once served in the armies, that they are MEN, not cowards. But what they don't understand is, the courage that the MIGHTY ones like Malcolm and Lumumba had has nothing to do with dodging a few bullets or fighting in the jungles with snakes. Its their ability to fight what was in the MINDSof theirpeoplethat made them the GREATESTS. There is no bigger task or mountain or bigger enemy than the fight for your people's minds..........and these two DID manage to GET into our minds. THAT, to me, is GREATNESS!
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10-02-06, 09:41 PM
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seems like we getting plenty of copy/paste jobs here but im still waiting for someone to name something GREAT!! which wasnt a speech..
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I dont know all there is to know about Malcolm X but I will say changing the mindset of a people (even if it is just a handful) who have been oppressed for centuries is a GREAT THING!
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Sis i know what you mean. Like you, i too hate it when people misread him because he simply said DO NOT TURN the other cheeck.....how they come to that conclusion is beyond me.
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I think we are stuck in a delusion where we want our leaders to speak, but NOT really too loud! Thats why people say things like he would have brought misery because of his so called violence teachings. Funny thing is, we have people back in the Continet who up this day BLAME Lumumba for THAT speech during our "independence"from Belgium when he let it all out about the atrocities they comitted against us. The funny thing is, these kinds of people all have one thing in common: FEAR! Yet because they think they dodged Moraccan border guards to get to Europe or once served in the armies, that they are MEN, not cowards. But what they don't understand is, the courage that the MIGHTY ones like Malcolm and Lumumba had has nothing to do with dodging a few bullets or fighting in the jungles with snakes. Its their ability to fight what was in the MINDSof theirpeoplethat made them the GREATESTS. There is no bigger task or mountain or bigger enemy than the fight for your people's minds..........and these two DID manage to GET into our minds. THAT, to me, is GREATNESS!
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11-02-06, 12:27 AM
THE THREAD IS TITLED: ''WHAT DID MALCOLM X DO THAT WAS SO GREAT'' NOT ''BN VILLAGERS HAVE A POP @ EACH OTHER''.
STICK TO THE TOPIC OR DONT POST AND TAKE YOUR ARSES TO PM!
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11-02-06, 12:49 AM
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Anyway back onto topic...
seems like we getting plenty of copy/paste jobs here but im still waiting for someone to name something GREAT!! which wasnt a speech..
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black Power: can i ask candidly did you ACTUALLY read the various comments posted by various people on the LIFE of Omewale Malcolm X..? Because it seems you're asking a question that has been answered time and time again.,...
However just to indulge you just a likkle more....if we are supposed to be inspired, informed and instructed by history.....
then I say the message of how Omewale Malcolm X, transformed and then lived his life is not only GREAT with a
Capital G....but his struggle is a relevant message that the youth involved in the THUG culture can LEARN from even today....
When Malcolm states: by ANY MEANS NECESSARY....I say he speaks of the struggle to transform mind, body and soul...
He demostrated as a MAN, who as a youth, a disturbed youth at that who as Detriot Red..like the YOUTH today was immersed in crime and criminal activity as a way of life...If you had read his autobiography, you would know he went with white women, he took drugs, sold drugs, involverd in all sorts of nastiness....YET!!!
Whilst in prison the LOVE of his family, and his own strengh of character led him walk away from a life of nastiness and transform himself into a LEADER of men, into a confident man who was fearless in the face of his enemy, who instead of turning on his own people channeled his energies to informing them....A made who had the guts and the strenght of Character to STAND UP to his mentor, when his mentor was in the wrong...a Man who MADE the ultimate sacrifice of his life in the cause of his own beliefs... Such a man is GREAT by ANY ..
not BLACK STANDARDS, NOT WHITE STANDARD, NOT ASIAN STANDARDS...BY ANY STANDARDS
In short Malcolm demostrated how by 'ANY means necessary' it was possible to TRANSFORM oneself from a Negro into an AFRICAN....the message of how he lived his LIFE is POWERFUL EXAMPLE of self discpline of the highest standard...and defacto GREAT...
But Black Power if you say he is not GREAT...then I challenge you to NAME someone who could equal or MATCH the highest level of principled behaviour that Omewale Malcolm X demostrated....instead of poo pooing people NAME someone who YOU think is GREAT and I'll show you all day long how Brother Malcolm eclipe them all day long...
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Anyway back onto topic...
seems like we getting plenty of copy/paste jobs here but im still waiting for someone to name something GREAT!! which wasnt a speech..
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black Power: can i ask candidly did you ACTUALLY read the various comments posted by various people on the LIFE of Omewale Malcolm X..? Because it seems you're asking a question that has been answered time and time again.,...
However just to indulge you just a likkle more....if we are supposed to be inspired, informed and instructed by history.....
then I say the message of how Omewale Malcolm X, transformed and then lived his life is not only GREAT with a
Capital G....but his struggle is a relevant message that the youth involved in the THUG culture can LEARN from even today....
When Malcolm states: by ANY MEANS NECESSARY....I say he speaks of the struggle to transform mind, body and soul...
He demostrated as a MAN, who as a youth, a disturbed youth at that who as Detriot Red..like the YOUTH today was immersed in crime and criminal activity as a way of life...If you had read his autobiography, you would know he went with white women, he took drugs, sold drugs, involverd in all sorts of nastiness....YET!!!
Whilst in prison the LOVE of his family, and his own strengh of character led him walk away from a life of nastiness and transform himself into a LEADER of men, into a confident man who was fearless in the face of his enemy, who instead of turning on his own people channeled his energies to informing them....A made who had the guts and the strenght of Character to STAND UP to his mentor, when his mentor was in the wrong...a Man who MADE the ultimate sacrifice of his life in the cause of his own beliefs... Such a man is GREAT by ANY ..
not BLACK STANDARDS, NOT WHITE STANDARD, NOT ASIAN STANDARDS...BY ANY STANDARDS
In short Malcolm demostrated how by 'ANY means necessary' it was possible to TRANSFORM oneself from a Negro into an AFRICAN....the message of how he lived his LIFE is POWERFUL EXAMPLE of self discpline of the highest standard...and defacto GREAT...
But Black Power if you say he is not GREAT...then I challenge you to NAME someone who could equal or MATCH the highest level of principled behaviour that Omewale Malcolm X demostrated....instead of poo pooing people NAME someone who YOU think is GREAT and I'll show you all day long how Brother Malcolm eclipe them all day long...
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