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16-03-06, 08:56 PM
whats up homboy? Peace, i bring you greeting from my original birthplace
PLAINFIELD NEW JERSEY!!! home of the "p"funk as well as the riots of the 70's
I used to be a member of the nation of islam and i rember going to the ZULU CLUB
over in NEW ARK AND GOING TO SHOWS AT THE bRADFORD THEATER.
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16-03-06, 11:47 PM
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Gun shots a shot!
Steven Biko said the same thing, in his book,
''I write what I like''
On why he thought whote people shouldn't be part of any black revolution. Their approach is diffrent, they even think its cool in some cases but they can never really grasp the consept of black power by AIDING the cause. Its a self rightious thing, self determination, empowerment of self that was/is needed and thats something that can't be done with white people, with the best at heart,helping in anyway.
Exactly. Malcolm, Biko and others correctly believed that the best way way for sincere whites of goodwillto help us, was among THEIR OWN people, correcting and chastising them on the dirt they do, not in our organizations trying to dictate and control our agenda, which is invariably what they end up trying to do when involved in our ish. The NAACP and other Black organzations that had major white/Jewish support and funding, are always beholden to having their agenda dictated to them by their benefactor. The one who pays the piper will always call the tune. Every other group understands this most basic of concepts ,except childish minded, low self esteem having, Negroes.....
Malcolm used to say that if a white person claiming to be down wanted to impress him, they would have to be on some John Brown type ish....Brown was a white abolitionist who not only spoke out against slavery, but took up arms and was willing to and actuallly didkill other white people who supported slavery. Needless to say, Brown was an anomaly. White historians and whites in general basically view him as a religious kook,lol. They see him that way because no matter how well meaning they claim to be, the overwhelming majority of them are not THAT down with our cause,lol. At worst they want to join us to disrupt and spy, at best they want to join us to control/dictate our agenda and control the timbre,pace and tone of our agenda.
Malcom X used to call white people the Devil in line with thinking that they were created by an Egyptian pharoe in the caucasian mountains, a mix of dog and man or something. The real thinking is that europeans have been subject to wrongful rule for too long, they belive the newspaper stories and news on tv when (most) ethnic peoples can see that its only their intrests that are talked about and anything that falls outside of these intrests or anyone that objects to these intrests be those fighting imperial rule in which what and where ever land areterrorists that should be destroyed.
Glad u mentioned this. I had intended to get more into what Elijah Muhhamad meant when he taught that whites were devils. Definitions are important, to make sure we're talking about the same thing. People throw words around without even knowing what is meant by them. What did he mean by devil? What is meant by "good" white people. There are some Blacks even now, especially in the South who think a white person is good because they don't burn a cross in your yard, or run around calling Black folks N****r....It doesn't matter if they practice all other kinds of covert racism, secretly think they're better than youor silently approve of the crackers that DO burn crosses in your yard and call us N****rs. That's why I said the whole argument is silly.
Anyway, what Muhhamad and Malcolm by extension,were talking about was more a collective character thing, not a little red man with a pitchfork. The same kind of thing that Native Americans meant when saying "the white man speaks with forked tongue", (detecting a pattern here?)Muhhamad and the NOI talked about "tricknology", how whites are able to make you believe that down is up and up is down. How they can convince Negroes that defending yourself against lynching/racism is to practice violence or racism in reverse,lol.How if they can't get what they want with brute force, they'll switch to the "friendly" approach. How they have different styles, but the same agenda.Muhhamad once said that the American white man is a wolf, the British white man is a fox, but they'll both eat you,lol. He meant that the American white style is more gangster, more in your face and base, the British white style is more refined, more subtle and "civilized", but the subtance is the same, only the styles differ.....rings true to me.
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16-03-06, 11:55 PM
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Anyway back onto topic...
seems like we getting plenty of copy/paste jobs here but im still waiting for
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someone to name something GREAT!! which wasnt a speech..
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TO WHAT END IS ALL OF THIS? So what...when you get the answer you're looking for what shall you do then? continue to badger us with all of this
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jibberish? "please stop it" why why why? ONE:
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17-03-06, 12:03 AM
Any time you stand up and man up against this oppresive system, ( are you with
me)? is a great thing.
Would you make a stand like Malcolm X? @kavika******
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17-03-06, 12:19 AM
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Ihear people talk of him as if he is this saint. This great leader. But what did he do any different than the average preacher, because essentially that is what he was. He wasn't a black leader. If you weren't in the NOI, how did he he help us? By saying the chickens coming home to roost, he became a black leader
Instead of comparing him to MLK, you should be comparing someone like Medgar Evers.
I think a lot of black people have this Tupac like obsession with Malcolm. You can't imagine what he would have done, because he didn't get chance to do it. You can only go by what he did and his actions. I think the Autobiography of Malcolm X, Spike's movie and X hats has youpeeps brainwashed.You might want to
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think about changing your monicker!!! I will attemp to answer your question which causes me to question your so-called black
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power name? In any event Malcolm X, schooled within in the nation of islam via Elijah Muhhammad.. [STAY WITH ME BLACK POWER? ] and when it came time for him to make pilmagrige to Mecca and tour around the Black Stone {The Kabba} He came to discover that all his prior teaching was bogus to say the least...
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Heres your answer mister!!! HE RENOUNCED THE NATION OF ISLAM IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT THIS MOVE
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MAY COST HIM HIS LIFE, bUT THE Minster kept it real and did
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the right thing and admitted his error!!! Weather you want to accept this or not sir... THIS IS A GREAT THING!!! AS WELL AS
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HONORABLE would you be willing to admit that you have been
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wrong about comments made on this forum and MAN UP and
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renounce those statements????? PLEASE STOP PLAYING!
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17-03-06, 12:22 AM
THATS RIGHT!banana.gif@black
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