On a few threads on this site people have made distinctions between people that were the same at their base but drew distinctions for their actions to separate them from the main group to explain their reasons for the separated to be mistreated.

For instance on this Duke students/athletes rape of an AA stripper. Before I say anything, I think that this was a vile act on three levels on a racial one, respect of women, and respect for humans. Even if the woman was an exotic dancer that had worked as an escort before, I still do not think that her actions provide an excuse for her raped.

That said, I will say once again that this is a philosophical thread and before you enter it, you better think about what you have said in the past on the relation of other things that are similar because I will call you on it...........



Anyway philosophically, looking at the rape, most of us think that the action of exotic dancing is not a morally acceptable action. We would all have to go as far to say that most of us ourselves would not allow our kids to enter that profession as we see it as a path of exploitation. We would also consider the personal escort business on the same level and maybe even a little less of moral value.

That said since we consider these actions as being morally unacceptable most of us in life accept people who commit morally unacceptable acts to suffer unacceptable acts upon them. Yet in this case of rape we claim a moral travesty has been committed on a person that was committing an unacceptable act to us..........My question is philiosophically, where is the line on the defense of the people who commit morally unacceptable acts when they themselves in turn suffer morally unacceptable acts? Sometimes we call it karma other times we say they should not have suffered an unacceptable act in which their action(s) in a sense helped them arrive at............

Acutally Black Power my question is more of where is the line than it is the question of her actions leading to the rape.

I mean horny dudes grab women walking down the street or even molest their own 7 yr old daughters, nieces, and cousins. I cannot justify the RESULT of RAPE, BUT it does make wonder how her immoral actions which lead to an immoral action happening to her is considered immoral itself, yet in other cases when we change the immoral action and the immoral result people say that it is karma.

confused3 Why?

Its simple.

Rape is an act of violence againt another person.

However imoral we may percieve cirtain professions to be, violence is not being commited by a person who decided to lap dance for a living.

Secondly when person goes on a date with an escort, choice is involved on both sides. If the woman on the date is then raped, she is stripped of her choice.

In the word of the great English philosopher John Stuart Mill, One is free to do whatever they desire, as long as they do not HARM anyone else. In light of that, i think you'll find that your "philosophical" question doesn't follow(as we would say in philosophical terms..lol) in any philosophical term.

I am laughing my ass off at this right....hillarious.

It is not LOGICALLY "simple" as you say.

Because if that is the case if I replaced a person's immoral action as stealing something valuable and heading out of the door and the end result is that person being shot and killed based on intrusion, many would say that this was karma and that the thief brought it on himself. Again why?

That is what this thread is attempting to evolve into. Not about how people feel on rape which is why I wrote what I did at the start of it. It is on Action and Result and why we change the view on them.

Read, Africans, Read

Why remain in a situation when you know there's a real risk something horrible is about to happen?

If walk down a street full KKK supporters shouting "Black Power" there's a real risk something horrible is about to happen to me. It's my right to shout black power where ever I want, on the other hand I as an individual, cant control the actions of the KKK members. So what do I do? I dont enter the dangerous situation.

Ever wonder why stripclubs have a no touch policy?