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"CANCER...super, super sensitive. agree!! You can get your feelings hurt with or even without a good reason. also agree!! Around you others are ill-at-ease because they never know what will set you off.thats because others are so damn insensitive!!People tire of those 'cry-baby' tactics often used to get your way.must have me confused with a capricorn!!Family-oriented? Yes, but you expect to rule relatives through clever emotionally-twisted manipulations.again, that would be the goat!!Long-suffering, self-sacrificing, giving your all for the family? You bet, but you expect in return 'only' everyone's total dedication, complete love and ongoing admiration. well fair is fair lol sick of giving to takers!! One of your greatest joys is making yourself visibly miserable in order to cause others to feel indebted and obligated to you. not really. if i don't make it obvious i am upset, people continue to "take" i isten and solve their problems, while they ignor mine!! Your love is the type which too often 'smothers' rather than uplifts. rats!! so thats why all those pets kept dying...
"By sharp contrast, you Cancer-born individuals noting this revealing information are caring, loving persons whose talents for building family trust and security are sharply-honed. awwww!!! You never unfairly use emotion--yours or others--to take advantage, or to gain power and control for yourself. damn straight!! Everyone adores you because you're so comforting and unselfish." damn straight again!!
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If an experiment which was run several years ago is anything to go by then we should all be able to switch the star signs around i.e. label Aries Cancer butwith the Cancerian characteristics and Aries people will still be able to relate.
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"a rose by any other name..." blah blah. I embody the characterisitcs of the time of year i was born. Whats your point?? I am sure i embody alot of characteristics from other signs too. For example, my moon is in capricorn, so i will have alot of those traits. Its just a piece of fun!!
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14-04-06, 11:46 PM
Describe exactly what "my moon is in capricorn" actually means.
Elucidate on what exactly a constellation is and relate this to the 3D space and distance...
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when i was born the sun was in cancer and the moon was in capricorn, thereby affecting certain traits of my personality, or so astrologers would have us believe. Various other planets were in vrious other positions also, but not knowing my exact time of birth, i don't know what those were. As to the other stuff, excuse me but i have a life and don't spend my time studying it, so i could not tell you!!
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You still don't seem to know what this means! Do you mean the moon magically transported itself billions of miles away to the constellation of Cancer when you were born? You realise of course that no such thing as "Cancer" actually exists. The stars that make up that constellation look completly different from any other angle than earths. The pattern doesn't exist from another angle. The stars that seemingly form a line on Orions belt for example are nowhere near each other relative to others... they just seem that way from our limited 2D representation on the sky. They are no closer or farther than the countless other stars or dark bodies out there. Having as much or as little effect on you as anything or rather NOTHING else.
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Hmm imagine that Canary Wharf, Natwest Tower (42), Crystal palace telegraph pole and the BT telecom tower were all 3000 meters high. Imagine you stood inessex on a clear day. They would appear to be in a line and make a pattern. Yet they are no closer to each other than any other buildings in London andobviously as you know theyform no pattern whatsoever.
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Also note that these patterns like "cancer" and "capricorn" are drawings of join-the-dots-in-the-skyfrom ONE particular culture. Damn near every culture on earth had it's own constellations based on the stars in the sky. All different. Why should just the 12 YOU KNOW happen to affect you and all the others don't?
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I figure you mean the moon passed over the constellation of Capricorn but then as I've explained, there isn't actually such a thing in the first place.
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thereby affecting certain traits of my personality, or so astrologers would have us believe.
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By what means?
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These are fair questions any reputable theory should be able to answer. The only effect stars could have on anything this far away is being able to see them or pulling minutely on our sun (gravity) if they were close enough.Proxima centuari is the closest star and that is way to far to pull on us... if it did the planets wouldn't move nicely about the sun and we wouldn't exist!
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Anyway how does gravity affect personality? Any psychologist published a paper on this yet?
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Various other planets were in vrious other positions also,
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Of course they were LOL, they don't disappear
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but not knowing my exact time of birth, i don't know what those were. As to the other stuff, excuse me but i have a life and don't spend my time studying it, so i could not tell you!!
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So you accept claptrap and swallow up praises ignorant of origin and box yourself into a proscribed personality type on the say so of crystal ball gazers and you call THAT having a life instead. Fair enough.
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You still don't seem to know what this means! Do you mean the moon magically transported itself billions of miles away to the constellation of Cancer when you were born? You realise of course that no such thing as "Cancer" actually exists.astrologers map these things out. it is not my "science" i did not invent it. To me, what it means is, according to some atrologer, the sun was in cancer and the moon in capricorn when i was born.Have not really taken time to research it. The stars that make up that constellation look completly different from any other angle than earths. The pattern doesn't exist from another angle. The stars that seemingly form a line on Orions belt for example are nowhere near each other relative to others... they just seem that way from our limited 2D representation on the sky. They are no closer or farther than the countless other stars or dark bodies out there. Having as much or as little effect on you as anything or rather NOTHING else. Your knowledge of constelation is impressive. have you studied astronomy?
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Hmm imagine that Canary Wharf, Natwest Tower (42), Crystal palace telegraph pole and the BT telecom tower were all 3000 meters high. Imagine you stood inessex on a clear day. They would appear to be in a line and make a pattern. Yet they are no closer to each other than any other buildings in London andobviously as you know theyform no pattern whatsoever.
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Also note that these patterns like "cancer" and "capricorn" are drawings of join-the-dots-in-the-skyfrom ONE particular culture. Damn near every culture on earth had it's own constellations based on the stars in the sky. All different. Why should just the 12 YOU KNOW happen to affect you and all the others don't? i don't know. i havn;t studied the others. maybe i will find another cultures interpretation more accurate. maybe i will find vast anomolies. Who knows? not really looking that deep into it.
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I figure you mean the moon passed over the constellation of Capricorn but then as I've explained, there isn't actually such a thing in the first place. well i guess a bunch of astronomers got together and made the whole thing up in order to "make sense" of personality types or whatever. probably isn't that much different to those test that test aptitude and what not.
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thereby affecting certain traits of my personality, or so astrologers would have us believe.
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By what means?
Is this a measureable phenomena? i'm not an astronomer so i wouldn't know. But the ones i have come across seem to agree.
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These are fair questions any reputable theory should be able to answer. The only effect stars could have on anything this far away is being able to see them or pulling minutely on our sun (gravity) if they were close enough.Proxima centuari is the closest star and that is way to far to pull on us... if it did the planets wouldn't move nicely about the sun and we wouldn't exist! you know, i may just be deeloing an interest in astronomy...
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Anyway how does gravity affect personality? Any psychologist published a paper on this yet? its an interting concept... plenty psycho babble on other crap that affects us. many a true word said in jest...
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Of course they were LOL, they don't disappear i meant other positions as in in other "star signs". i would take it as a bad sign if all the planets disappeared at the moment of my birth, belief in astrology or no...
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but not knowing my exact time of birth, i don't know what those were. As to the other stuff, excuse me but i have a life and don't spend my time studying it, so i could not tell you!!
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So you accept claptrap and swallow up praises ignorant of origin and box yourself into a proscribed personality type on the say so of crystal ball gazers and you call THAT having a life instead. Fair enough. Oh yes. I base my entire life on what my star sign says. I cannot make a decisons without it. If two say contradicting things i simple shake my magic 8 ball...
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Astronomers map those things out!! There is a MASSIVE difference. Like the kind between a Medical consultant (Dr somebody whose about to cut you up)and somebody who "lays on hands".
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it is not my "science" i did not invent it. To me, what it means is, according to some atrologer, the sun was in cancer and the moon in capricorn when i was born.Have not really taken time to research it. The stars that make up that constellation look completly different from any other angle than earths. The pattern doesn't exist from another angle. The stars that seemingly form a line on Orions belt for example are nowhere near each other relative to others... they just seem that way from our limited 2D representation on the sky. They are no closer or farther than the countless other stars or dark bodies out there. Having as much or as little effect on you as anything or rather NOTHING else. Your knowledge of constelation is impressive. have you studied astronomy?
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BRIEFLY!! Physics and astronomy yes. You don't need to know that much to be honest. Just use your own sense when given the facts... or look at the sky yourself and try to find these constellations then think about the next bit below...
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