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14-04-06, 09:00 PM
Hi
I am currently in the process of writing my dissertation and just wondering if you could all help me out.
My topic is focusing on the purpose and the effect of the Black Press (the voice and new nation) and looking at whether the Black community of Britain have a voice through these publications.
What are your opinions of the black press in the current climate?
Do you feel that they are responsible enough?
Do they have any effect on you?
How do you relate to what they publish?
I would be very grateful for your help. I know there is a similar topic, but this will aid my research greatly.
Thank you all for your time.
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15-04-06, 07:16 PM
I live outside of the black community in north london and hardly see a black newspaper to be honest. I've been working with a group who sell The Burning Spear to outreach and I guess that the newspaper although it can be badly written does draw attention to whats going on in Africa and other nations we've settled in... to be honest it would take a lot of work to represent every black person in the UK let along worldwide... I think we've all got a story to tell, most in situations that are news worthy but it seems only reliable if it comes from The Mirror or The Guardian, I think the black newspapers should be delivered unsparingly to each and every black persons home if they like it or not cause most stick to rubbish tabloids and expect a decent report not knowing that they're subject to bias and even institutional racism set in between the lines of european papers, if its genuine ignorance of the author then fine but I've seen too many incitive reports and dodgy printing tactics in main stream papers;
EG; The Metro, a free commuters paper prints the headline of a ''murder'' involving a black woman and three white youths she was taking somewhere. A look into the story reveals that the ''Murder'' was more her swerving in the road and loosing control of her car.. the paper goes on to cry out at the menial sentance she recived even though she was lucky to escape herself. THe following pages were about Africa and Mr Browns apparent £2 Billion donation with a long article about monkeys and gorrilas dotted around the story. Other examples of institutional racism set into papers involves innocently printing an article about a black person with a report of some gun crime next to it, page relation, implying things soflty.
Sorry. I'm on a rant again.
I have to admit that its not likely that I'd feel represented by any newspaper at all. The Gleaner does offer a good look into things. Sometimes the reports of crime rates back home hurt that bit too much I know thats why my fam kinda keep away from them at times. Allow hearing about the murder rate in JA being 160 monthly when you've got family out there. Kinda sucks... will wait for others opinions not sure what else to say unless you wanna hear me rant and rave about institutional racism and how our newspapers should adopt the same policy as the mainstream ones. Hehehe. Thing is, all newspapers are subjet to regulations so nothing like >>>> http://www.organicconsumers.org/valentines/alert.htm<<<< is really printed.
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15-04-06, 07:32 PM
I stick to word of mouth and pirate raidio....I mean come on now... a free black newspaper in a white man country??...
UmmmHmmmm... Say it brother! Say it loud! lol
They're a touch more true to home than the tabloids but still down with the man and his plan.
In general of course.
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15-04-06, 11:34 PM
thanx for the comments so far. More would be appreciated.
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16-04-06, 12:00 AM
"I know there is a similar topic, but this will aid my research grately.
Curious to know for what the dissertion is intended and the methods of "research" used so far (and the findings).
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"I know there is a similar topic, but this will aid my research grately. (EDIT)
Curious to know for what the dissertion is intended and the methods of "research" used so far (and the findings).
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Ok, I've interviewed a few respectful people anddoing textual analysis's of a few issues. this is my third area of research (the audience, so to speak). can't really talk on the findings as of yet.
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Care to share your views and opinions MGL?
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16-04-06, 11:27 PM
Sorry Musiqlova: but if you're asking people to participate in YOUR reaserch..then you need to be up front and tell us a bit about yourself, where this reaserch is heading and who will have access to it..
On that I agree with MGL.. If you have conductec research in other forums they would ask/demand that you offer a lot more than you have here...so come on now..
Be proffessional tell the audience exactly what you're asking them to become involved in...that by the way is NOT a request!!!
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My opinion is that if "interviewing a few respectful people", "doing textual analysis's of a few issues" [sic] and posting a message on an internet forum is what now constitutes "research" for a "dissertation", then educational standards have sunk even further than the media - including so-called "black newspapers" - have led us to believe.
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17-04-06, 11:44 AM
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My opinion is that if "interviewing a few respectful people", "doing textual analysis's of a few issues" [sic] and posting a message on an internet forum is what now constitutes "research" for a "dissertation", then educational standards have sunk even further than the media - including so-called "black newspapers" - have led us to believe.
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Thanks for your comments MGLclp), I forgot to mention thatmy "research" also consists ofover 40 odd books and numerousjournals, newspaper articlesI have read over the past seven months or so that all relate to what I am studying.
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I'm on the right track but
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you wouldn't believe how un-co operative certainpeople are when you ask them for a little help, then again...
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You're probably right about the educational standards dropping, but with great encouragement and support like your's I will be alright.
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17-04-06, 11:58 AM
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Sorry Musiqlova: but if you're asking people to participate in YOUR reaserch..then you need to be up front and tell us a bit about yourself, where this reaserch is heading and who will have access to it..
On that I agree with MGL.. If you have conductec research in other forums they would ask/demand that you offer a lot more than you have here...so come on now..
Be proffessional tell the audience exactly what you're asking them to become involved in...that by the way is NOT a request!!!
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Is the infomation I have written that unclearconfused3. Me and the person markingthe work are the only people that will have access to any information given.The trouble is I wanted to conduct a fewfocus groups, but finding the right pepole and the right age groups proved so difficult, so this was the next best step this is what you call a 'online ethnography'. The responses given here would be combined with the other methods I have used thus far.
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I am not really asking the audience to become involved in anything, I just wanted to gain ainsightintothe views and opinions in relation to the 'black press'. If there are any pertiant points raised I would be able to adapt and raise other points. The points I made at the outset were just guidelines so to speak.
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Don't worry thoughif your not intrested in helping, I've become use to that in the past few months.
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17-04-06, 12:24 PM
Musiqlova: Sorry if this sounds rather blunt, however I must speak as I find....its not that you're unclear it is that you're not CLEAR enough.. it is that you are not paying people the proper respect, and that you're appear to pulling a fast onthis audience.
I'm quite clear you just didn't pull this idea together out of thin air, you must have written an extensive reaserch proposal that spelt out in clear terms your aims and objectives, and the mathods you would emply to achieve these.. I'm also sure that when you sought help elsewhere you didn't write a precie that was as vague as the one you're now offering us here on BNV..so please come on and stop with the victim mentality...
So can I spell out what it is that I would expect at the very least:
1. For you to state clearly who you are what uni your based at and your LINK to that university.
2. To articulate in clear terms you role, the course this research is to form a part of..and how it will be used..
3. I would expect to know how you intend to represent any views you glean from this website and in what context and in comparison to what other websites..
4. where people can get access to your finish research to view for themselves how they are represented..
You might be surprised to learn that you are not the first person seeking to use Black forums for their research, and if I'm honest our experience of people doing research is not exactly positive..so strangely enoughnow I like to know just a bit more about about researcher before I collude with their research...
If you're up front and honest then none of this should not be a problem...anyway I will give you a deadline of 24 hours thereafter i will remove this whole thread and your account..
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17-04-06, 12:42 PM
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Musiqlova: Sorry if this sounds rather blunt, however I must speak as I find....its not that you're unclear it is that you're not CLEAR enough.. it is that you are not paying people the proper respect, and that you're appear to pulling a fast onthis audience.
I'm quite clear you just didn't pull this idea together out of thin air, you must have written an extensive reaserch proposal that spelt out in clear terms your aims and objectives, and the mathods you would emply to achieve these.. I'm also sure that when you sought help elsewhere you didn't write a precie that was as vague as the one you're now offering us here on BNV..so please come on and stop with the victim mentality...
So can I spell out what it is that I would expect at the very least:
1. For you to state clearly who you are what uni your based at and your LINK to that university.
2. To articulate in clear terms you role, the course this research is to form a part of..and how it will be used..
3. I would expect to know how you intend to represent any views you glean from this website and in what context and in comparison to what other websites..
4. where people can get access to your finish research to view for themselves how they are represented..
You might be surprised to learn that you are not the first person seeking to use Black forums for their research, and if I'm honest our experience of people doing research is not exactly positive..so strangely enoughnow I like to know just a bit more about about researcher before I collude with their research...
If you're up front and honest then none of this should not be a problem...anyway I will give you a deadline of 24 hours thereafter i will remove this whole thread and your account..
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I understand what your saying, I knew this would be a issue. I am a third&final year student at UCE (university of central england), studying media and communication.
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As I said beforeI am in the process of writing my dissertation. The topic is 'the black press' and thier role within the black community (whether positive or negative, that is what I hope to uncover in clearer terms). My dissertation title isn't finalised as ofyet.
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The aim of this would be to explore the 'audiences' views of such newspapers (especially the new nation and the voice) more or less what I said in the post before.
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I intend to be honest as possible, the comments I recieve would be clairfied in realtion to my study, there would be no comparison to any other website, just relating the responses I recieve to ceratin issues/topics I have discovered from literature read and the interviews I have conducted.
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I don't think there is chance for anyone to access my work as it will be kept by the university and used strictly for academic purposes only.
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Hope that is clear enough.
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