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I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT DOMINICA AND DOMINICAN REPULIC SPOKE FRENCH! FIRST I HAVE EVER HEARD THAT THEY SPEAK SPANISH!!! confused3
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I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT DOMINICA AND DOMINICAN REPULIC SPOKE FRENCH! FIRST I HAVE EVER HEARD THAT THEY SPEAK SPANISH!!! confused3
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LMAO! Dominica speak french patois/creole, while Dominican Republic speak Spanish and french creole in the Haitian community.
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Blame it on Christopher Columbus for confusion! lol
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Many groups around the world know they have African blood in them but do they try to claim us as one of their own? No! If anything they hide the fact, but we're the only ones who get on this "My great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother was 1/25th Chinese" bullsh*t!!
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19-04-06, 10:28 AM
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I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT DOMINICA AND DOMINICAN REPULIC SPOKE FRENCH! FIRST I HAVE EVER HEARD THAT THEY SPEAK SPANISH!!! confused3
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LMAO! Dominica speak french patois/creole, while Dominican Republic speak Spanish and french creole in the Haitian community.
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That's for sure.....
Was abit upset when I saw the topic,thinking... where is this Spanish nonsense coming from, barefaced lies about not being black.
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Ahh.... Dominican Republic and not Dominica.
To honest them islands can just stay over there at arms length.
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The world's full of them..... and you know it!
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19-04-06, 03:04 PM
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I agree. It sad.
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20-04-06, 08:53 PM
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Many groups around the world know they have African blood in them but do they try to claim us as one of their own? No! If anything they hide the fact, but we're the only ones who get on this "My great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother was 1/25th Chinese" bullsh*t!!
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21-04-06, 05:09 AM
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Miss Nelia's firstpost was the best one I've read in this thread. Big deal if those from the DR don't recognise their 'blackness'....what does that mean to me or us? confused3I was in the DR last year and one of the locals even admitted to me that many Dominicansdon't know what to call themselves. Yet we want them as part of our family.....is it the 'good hair' or the lighter hue why so many of us want to have an affiliation with them?
For the most part the people on the island were very friendly towards us, but I'm sure the Haitian immigrants would have a different story to tell considering 99% of them get the menial jobs no one else wants to do.
Like Miss Nelia rightly pointed out, when Africa develops and starts to rise then everyone with an ounce of African blood in their veins will want to be 'black' again. As Africans we're like the fat ugly girl no one wants to date or be seen with until she loses weight, fixes herself up and has things going for herselfthen everyone wants to know her.
It's embarrasing when I hear people trying to claim J-Ho, Mariah Scarey, Eva Mendes, hell even Bruce Leeand any other bloody wretch as one of our own! You think if they lit the gas ovens tomorrow with the intention of wiping out Africans that these people will be shaking in their tube socks? No! But of course the minute things are going well for us or they want to jump on the bandwagon just like the Asian posse.
We don't freakin' need 'em! End of. If it makes one feel like somebody when they hear a Latino or any other non African say they're 'black' then such a person has self esteem issues. Many groups around the world know they have African blood in them but do they try to claim us as one of their own? No! If anything they hide the fact, but we're the only ones who get on this "My great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother was 1/25th Chinese" bullsh*t!!
We are Africans whose numbers reach a billion worldwide! We have our identity and others have theirs. Live with it.
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Lol. So true but still some people can't stop begging acceptance from mulattos. I guess they can't be happy with being black unless mulattos arearound to help us "better" the race. People need to check their own slave mentalities before they start pointing fingers at others.
There's a mixed race girl in my residence who's always trying to make sly remarks about Africa even though her father is Nigerian. The girl is half Slovakian and still has the nerve to act as if this backward, poverty ridden, Slovakia, is the most advanced country in the world because they're white. If her own father can't be bothered to raise his daughter to appreciate his heritage, then why should I? Most mulattosmay as wellbe whiteto me because really, I feel no affinity towards them and therefore in my view, they can choose to call themselves whatever they want.
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Hey everybody, I feel like Im in a brilliant position to comment...No Im not Dominican, but I am living here for 3 months as a volunteer in an orphanage, and I live in the capital city not the all inclusive resorts a lot of holiday makers only see..... I can let you know from jump that this country is so messed up it is unreal.....Being born and raised in London I am use to the trivial arguments about lightskinned/ dark skinned in the Dominican REpublic it goes beyond that....
BLACK = Poor, ugly, lazy and inferior
WHITE = Beautiful, rich and superior.
When I first got here I was under the impression that I was gonna have the time of my life....Well, first of all I had to get use to beng called Morena , oh and the white girls I am withare calledRubia......Rubias are idolised over here..Can you imagine men would fall over themselves to stoke the hair of these girls....I have never in my life been in a place of such self hatred....In the orphanage i work, all the kids are black....different shades but black none the less...yet if they get into a fight ( which routinely occurs)..the first hting out of their mouths would be a reference to how dark the other is....It is so sad...everybody here is mixed but nobody celebrates that fact...Can you imagine the majority of adverts have European men and women selling the products..initially I was like WTF.....now Im just use to it...
I see how they despise Haitians and in many ways think they are superior to them.. When Im out an about with the other white volunteers I get looks of pure hatred and when they hear me speak, they assume Im American and continue with their evilness.....What is so funny is that if any of these people were in the UK ,, Euroipe or the States they would be described as black....plaina and simple.....
The view that black women are nothing but sexual objects is so prevalent...When Dominican guys who are lighter approach me and I flatly turn them down , they are shocked that I wouldnt jumpo at the chance to improve my situaton....it sad really....The country not only lacks any Black but any pride at all....The Dominican women here hate the White chicks Im with, the Dominican men love the white chicks. The Dominican men hate white men, particualry American but teh Dominican Women love them............Don't even get me started on the European SEx tourists who select young dark looking Dominican women for their pleasures!!!
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01-05-06, 04:32 PM
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Hey everybody, I feel like Im in a brilliant position to comment...No Im not Dominican, but I am living here for 3 months as a volunteer in an orphanage, and I live in the capital city not the all inclusive resorts a lot of holiday makers only see..... I can let you know from jump that this country is so messed up it is unreal.....Being born and raised in London I am use to the trivial arguments about lightskinned/ dark skinned in the Dominican REpublic it goes beyond that....
BLACK = Poor, ugly, lazy and inferior
WHITE = Beautiful, rich and superior.
When I first got here I was under the impression that I was gonna have the time of my life....Well, first of all I had to get use to beng called Morena , oh and the white girls I am withare calledRubia......Rubias are idolised over here..Can you imagine men would fall over themselves to stoke the hair of these girls....I have never in my life been in a place of such self hatred....In the orphanage i work, all the kids are black....different shades but black none the less...yet if they get into a fight ( which routinely occurs)..the first hting out of their mouths would be a reference to how dark the other is....It is so sad...everybody here is mixed but nobody celebrates that fact...Can you imagine the majority of adverts have European men and women selling the products..initially I was like WTF.....now Im just use to it...
I see how they despise Haitians and in many ways think they are superior to them.. When Im out an about with the other white volunteers I get looks of pure hatred and when they hear me speak, they assume Im American and continue with their evilness.....What is so funny is that if any of these people were in the UK ,, Euroipe or the States they would be described as black....plaina and simple.....
The view that black women are nothing but sexual objects is so prevalent...When Dominican guys who are lighter approach me and I flatly turn them down , they are shocked that I wouldnt jumpo at the chance to improve my situaton....it sad really....The country not only lacks any Black but any pride at all....The Dominican women here hate the White chicks Im with, the Dominican men love the white chicks. The Dominican men hate white men, particualry American but teh Dominican Women love them............Don't even get me started on the European SEx tourists who select young dark looking Dominican women for their pleasures!!!
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This is some sad ish, to say the least. It' a perfect example of how things play out in places where the white supremacy hierarchy is put in place,(which is everywhere,damn near). It's just manifests more intensely in some places. Latin American countries seem to be more vulnerable because of the "sliding scale" approach to race. Blacks in the U.S. manifest the same brainwashing, but on a much smaller scale, because no matter how "light skinned" one may be, at the end of the day, they are still considered a ****** here, and they will have a myriad of reminders of that fact, everyday;just in case they slip up and forget,lol.
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I may catch heat for saying this, but the one drop rule helped Blacks in America. In countries that have the more sliding scale approach to race, Negros can't get on the same page about anything,enabling crackers to keep their foot up everyone's ass. I heard a Brazilian singer attest to this one time. He said there is racism/poverty in Brazil(overwhelmingly affecting the more African looking Brazilians), but Blacks there can't unify because everybody identifies by how much "other' blood they have, even if they are phenotypically Black. He said Blacks in the U.S. were able to mount successful movements, because we had unity,(might have started as a forced unity, but it was still unity).South Africa,likeBrazilhad the similar situation,with the "colored", who sometimes worked against the interests of the "blacks"(inadvertenly or purposely aiding whites), meanwhile the white Afrikaners maintained their place at the top.
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This is true, it is a sad situation. As highlighted by someone earlier the Spanish were very smart in creating in many ways a caste system. Ive been her going on 6 weeks and Im yet to see a white Dominican everybody is mixed, but this doesnt mean they don't think they are as close to white as possible. In many ways its a state fo denial, I knwo for sure continental Spanish people do not class Dominicans and many Latin American countries as Spanish. Dominican Spanish is very different to Spanish anyway.....Inititally when I got here I was on a one woman mission to change the status quo....but the sad thing is it aint possible...the only thing I can do is constantly tell the kids Im with that their beautiful..many don't believe me and were shocked when I told them that in the UK and many parts of the world tanning is big business....You should have seen the looks when I rocked my afro....IT does sadden me....I think one of the highlights for me was when I went to the shopping centre and saw a female's t-shirt....that read ' Pale is the New TAN....".....what the ...?
I think Dominicans here are in their own little bubble its only when they go to other parts of the world where they discover that being slightly brown doesn mean ish...you are black the end of the day!!
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Yep, the Spanish were smart to set up that multilayered castes system. Whites in America, and the UK, to a lesser extent, practiced a more uniform,one size fits all brand of racism, which helped to unite and radicalize Blacks here. No Black person in their right mind,here, REALLY had a vested interest in upholding white rule, no matter how light they were, because in this system, they could never escape N****r status.As a matter of fact, in the U.S., a lot of times, it was lighter skinned Blacks who were/are MORE radical and anti white. It's almost like having all that white blood, damn near looking like a white person, and STILL being irrevocably Negro, has the effect of making one more bitter or radical in some instances.
@SerialChiller, your point about Blacks in Americabringing up Cherokee/native american blood is well taken. I think the difference is that we mainly talk that foolishness among ourselves(it only has cache among other Negroes). Most Negroes who talk that light skin dark skin ish around other Blacks, are embarrased to talk itaround whites, becauseWe KNOW damned well that native americans and crackers don't give a damn about us having "mixed"blood. If we don't know, they will HAPPILY AND CONSISTENTLY remind us,lol(as u mentioned with the Cherokee casino example). I don't think Blacks from Latin countries KNOW this in the same way. They come from places that ENCOURAGE them to embrace/emphasize their white blood and reject their African blood, they even get different legal status/classification at times. They actually seem to think they are something other than. For example, at my former job, their was a brown skinned Afro Cuban woman,. I heard her telling someone that she couldn't wait to tell her daughter that she was dating a "Black" man, her daughter was going to be suprised,because itwas some sort of milestone for her, cause she usually doesn't date Blacks. I'm thinking to myself: "b**ch, YOU"RE Black", but I stayed out of the convo.
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01-05-06, 10:39 PM
Is it right to call the D.R most racist place for black person.Because I've never heard of type shit.In apartheid or slavery days in the caribbean.
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