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Gordon Brown will propose today that Remembrance Sunday should be developed into a national day of patriotism to celebrate British history, achievements and culture. The chancellor envisages a "British Day", equivalent to the Fourth of July independence celebrations in the United States.

Ok am gonna use this qoute from Gordon Brown to start a discussion here, Knowadays i seem to be hearing people saying that certain ethnic/ religous/nationalities aren't integrating into uk society. This mainly seems to be coming from the center right and far right although i had heard from blacks and asians also.

So i have a few question i would like to pose!

1. What exactly is integration?

2.What do you think about celebrating a british day?

3. Can peoplestill retaintheir own langauge/ religion/ culture and still adapt to and succeed in British society?

4. Do you know any african carribean/ aisan people born and raised in this country who fly the unioun flag? ( cus i dont)






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Gordon Brown will propose today that Remembrance Sunday should be developed into a national day of patriotism to celebrate British history, achievements and culture. The chancellor envisages a "British Day", equivalent to the Fourth of July independence celebrations in the United States.

Ok am gonna use this qoute from Gordon Brown to start a discussion here, Knowadays i seem to be hearing people saying that certain ethnic/ religous/nationalities aren't integrating into uk society. This mainly seems to be coming from the center right and far right although i had heard from blacks and asians also.

So i have a few question i would like to pose!

1. What exactly is integration?
Accepting Britian as your long term home. Accepting that you will die cold, alone, in a nursing home with your last vision being of a leering, fat, ugly, gap tooth care assistant. F*ck DAT.


2.What do you think about celebrating a british day?
Its all give give give. F*ck that! Why don't the british celebrate black history with a bank holiday or something.


3. Can peoplestill retaintheir own langauge/ religion/ culture and still adapt to and succeed in British society?
Yes
4. Do you know any african carribean/ aisan people born and raised in this country who fly the unioun flag? ( cus i dont)
Me neither






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Its all give give give. F*ck that! Why don't the british celebrate black history with a bank holiday or something.
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I'd have to look into it, but it sounds like another day for the british to celebrate by getting excessivley drunk and kill a few brothers in the process!!

Remember right now british people are petrified that they are loosing their precious culture that anything to do with race sends them into a frenzy!!!

A british day cannot not be stopped, but it will bring out the 'under foot' element of british society.


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So i have a few question i would like to pose!

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Adopting the triats of the host nation, city, or a community especially if you're foreign to them. Few people makethe conscious choice to integrate though.

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Retarded. Most Scots would tell you the same thing also, of course not including Gordon Brown who needs a slap to be honest. More Brits are out celebrating St' Partrick's day than St' George's day, I think that tells you something.The Irish don't need to flag wave so much either.

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Depends what you mean by succeed? Life fulfillment, contentment, happiness or material wealth? which brings nether in my experience.
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I would say yes to the question, though you'd have to be pretty much outside society in the first place, if not very fortunate.

4. Do you know any african carribean/ aisan people born and raised in this country who fly the unioun flag? ( cus i dont)
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Plenty, check all those celebrities/sports stars.




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Doing 'as the Romans do' whilst living amongst them. In doing that, some may become Romans - others will not. Notbecoming a Romanis much preferred.
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Ask the British. I'd personally have no problem, so long as it was a notion of Britishness which did not fundamentally rely on an inherent superiority to everyone else on the planet.Thiskind ofBritishness does exist, but its not dominant.
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You stand more chance of succeeding and retaining your sanity if you retainyour own culture - we would not have changed this country any other way.


4. Do you know any african carribean/ aisan people born and raised in this country who fly the unioun flag? ( cus i dont)
Not as a habit.


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1. What exactly is integration
adopting the traits and habits of your surroundings as well as wanting others to adopt yours so we can all skip across meadows together singing "racism is gone!"
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I have zero reason to celebrate a day that has nothing to do with me or my culture. i don't seeeuropeans holding a minutes silence when its the anniversary of the death of one of our great leaders. A tad hypocritical since mr blair and his minions are so proud of this "multicultural" society that we live in

3. Can peoplestill retaintheir own langauge/ religion/ culture and still adapt to and succeed in British society?
Yes but dont bother trying to make people respect it!
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4. Do you know any african carribean/ aisan people born and raised in this country who fly the unioun flag? ( cus i dont)
Not personally but I've seenthe odd person walking around with a union jack t-shirt etc





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Intresting responses but i think this "british day" could easily become reality just like id cards through the back door. I for one will respect the law of this country work, study and pay taxes, However i will not be celebrating a "British Day" because :

1899 to 1920, the dervishes conducted a war of resistance against the Ethiopians and British, a struggle that devastated the Somali Peninsula and resulted in the death of an estimated one-third of northern Somalia's population and the near destruction of its economy. One of the longest and bloodiest conflicts in the annals of sub-Saharan resistance to alien encroachment, the dervish uprising was not quelled until 1920 with the death of Hasan, who became a hero of Somali nationalism. Deploying a Royal Air Force squadron recently returned from action in combat in World War I, the British delivered the decisive blow with a devastating aerial bombardment of the dervish capital at Taleex in northern Somalia.




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^^^ Exactly why they want people to become british and have street cameras everywhere, they created much of the poverty in the third world and have allowed the people of these nations to work in their country under the commonwealth after ww2. Cause and solution. I don't think their ''NWO'' will work, people hold grudges and know not to trust them... also their ID cards won't work either, much for the same reason but people feel infringed upon by it all. The tube workers in london areon strike now, they're trying to give them ID cards and they don't want them as its against human rights.

Remember right now british people are petrified that they are loosing their precious culture that anything to do with race sends them into a frenzy!!!


lol!

They think they've been taken over and more are voting BNP as reported in the news yesterday/today...A theif can't complain about hisproperty when its been stolen from others and they seek to reclaim it. Their 'culture'' is with the arisocrats in lodges and mansions sipping tea (china) and moaning about fox hunting. Scared of the ever rising ''sea of darkenss''... the ethnic ''minority'' that actually outnumber the european population, rising up past their own and establishing an empire within an empire.

1. What exactly is integration?

To become a part of. In this case a part of another country another ''culture''... to help them regain pride in 'their' culture through people of other nationality who are supposed to drop theirnational prideand hoist up a new one in celebration.

''I'm not Jamaican I'm British so I'll run/play/work for Britain and not for my homeland''

Brain draining.

Take note that when you go abroad you'll find english pubs in Spain, fish and chip shops in greece and an ugly culture of ''my currency is stronger so I'll do what I please'' they make no effort to take pride in anotherculture unless to steal from it so I feel no way about being British at all.

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Farf... I wonder if we'll be fined for not celebrating?
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Yes but dont bother trying to make people respect it!
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Sway the rapper does, I've heard a few on the radio who talk about being proud to be british. Prehaps it is a good way forward but to be honest once they feel threatened they'll all start voting for right wing groups to put us down again.
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They have been wearing the St Georges flag in sports quite a bit and even thats kinda scary, funny how they've adorned Ashley Cole and others with it when its an ENGLISH flag and not a united one. They really are trying to boost morale... the 2012 olympics should be intresting.
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Someone mentioned minute silences. Man. The next one I happen to find myself in I'm going to pretend to have a fit.



As for ID cards, people will be begging for one when they start to link them with keeping tabs on Paedophiles.
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So i have a few question i would like to pose!

1. What exactly is integration?
Accepting Britian as your long term home. Accepting that you will die cold, alone, in a nursing home with your last vision being of a leering, fat, ugly, gap tooth care assistant. F*ck DAT.

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