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19-04-06, 11:12 PM
Wha Gwarn BNV,
Just want to see read some of your views on protecting yourself on the street and what I should do. Well as some of you know I'm a young male in my teenage years....When i go out on the streets I carry what the law would say 'weapons' (Kosher, knuckle duster, knife sometimes, metal bars) not to START any problems, but to protect myslef if trouble COMES TO ME!!!!!! The reason for this is becuase when walking andI get hit/jumped/racially assualted/get drawn into something I have reassurance that I got something that can help me....
Now if I get stopped by the police( who if anything did start they'd take the p*ss to come or wouldn't turn up) they will nabb my black ass and say something like "...THIS IS AN OFFENSIVE weapon blah blah blah..."
Which comes to the question shall I risk getting caught and carry something and maybe get caught, or carry nothing at all?
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19-04-06, 11:26 PM
This is a very good and interesting question..i look forward to the responses to this question....
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19-04-06, 11:35 PM
First off, how old are you?
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19-04-06, 11:41 PM
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Wha Gwarn BNV,
Just want to see read some of your views on protecting yourself on the street and what I should do. Well as some of you know I'm a young male in my teenage years....When i go out on the streets I carry what the law would say 'weapons' (Kosher, knuckle duster, knife sometimes, metal bars) not to START any problems, but to protect myslef if trouble COMES TO ME!!!!!! The reason for this is becuase when walking andI get hit/jumped/racially assualted/get drawn into something I have reassurance that I got something that can help me....
Now if I get stopped by the police( who if anything did start they'd take the p*ss to come or wouldn't turn up) they will nabb my black ass and say something like "...THIS IS AN OFFENSIVE weapon blah blah blah..."
Which comes to the question shall I risk getting caught and carry something and maybe get caught, or carry nothing at all?
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I think you should start moving with different people. It'snot good if you feel the need to carry those kinds of weapons in fact any weapons at all .I'm not saying that the stop and search doesn't happen by any means but if you are prepared for trouble in a way trouble is bound to come to you. It's more about the mindset brother. Walk head strong.
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19-04-06, 11:55 PM
Well, I wouldnt walk witha weapon if I were you because there will come a point where you will be stopped for that well known criminal offence of"walking whist being a Black Man" and if they find a weapon on you,thats it,ya dun,tracked for life.
By the way house-keys are a very effective weapon when directed with great velocity at the eyes and the neck and noone can arrest you for having house keys.confused3
Also for a time I used to travel with hot sauce,not just any hot sauce but the kind which can make your eyes BLEED!! But this is more of a tip for the ladies as we carry handbags etc.
Good Luck getting through your teens and twenties though,you are gonna need it.
I aint asking for nothing,just open the door and i\'ll take it myself-James Brown.
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20-04-06, 12:08 AM
@ interested 1
As a young female, with quite a few males as friends, this topic has come up quite a few times in some of ourconversations.
I do understand the problem, that particulary and stupidly occurs in youngAfrican males, ofmoving to people, because they are not from your endz, or is going on like a bad man, therefore they need to be taken down a peg, by getting moved to. Throughout my secondary school days, i have known boys to carry, spanners, knuckle dusters, iron bars knives ect, for so called protection. Now some boys carried these tools to just abide by a fashion trend. However some felt that they geuinely had to carry weapons to protect themselves from certain man, who they had a beef with personally or who their friends did. Certain people carried weapons becasue they apparently were 'always getting moved to'.
I personally feel that if you are a 'road man' and are constantly in trouble carrying a weapon is going to be a standard for that individual, as they are constantly looking behing their back.However if you don't associate yourself with trouble, orcarry yourself in a particular way,you would not feel the need to carry a weapon. Even if you carried a weapon for protection, you have to consider is it worth going to jail over if you get caught, because you are worried about the probability that danger would present itself? Ibelieve thatdecision is completely up to the individual, and what he or she (in certain circumstances), views as being more important, prison orprotecting yourself from so called danger.It's a risk that people take, as a result of a fashion trend, or genuine protection.
I personally do not advocate the carrying of weapons, as this can only lead to injury or an unfortunate killing of another young brother. It is also important to recognise, that some individuals that carry a weapon, feel a certain degree of power, and this power manifests itself in an attitude, whereby an inidividualmay feelfearless or invincible. So if a particular problem arises however minor, depending on the individual that person may feel the need to demonstrate how powerful he is, or how much he is a bad man because he has a weapon. This could result in an injury or a death, because he or she might feel compelled to use this weapon in order to prove a point.
Any way these are just my views. It would be interested to seehow the rest of BNV feels about this issue.
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20-04-06, 10:26 AM
I feel your dilenma man. Went thru that phase myself.
All my friends were starting to carry and we even went to these shops to look at special forces style killing knives. Man those weapons looked deadly, but they are easy to buy, which is quite worrying. Its more to do with fashion/being cool than safety and in the end, thankfully, common sense prevailed. You just gotta say NO.
Think about it, are you really gonna use a deadly weapon on a brother? Nope don't think so.
I'd recommend you get yourself to martial arts classes (kickboxing especially). You'll feel so strong and confident after a few classes that you won't need weapons.
Keep out of trouble Man. Trust me.
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20-04-06, 11:33 AM
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Wha Gwarn BNV,
Just want to see read some of your views on protecting yourself on the street and what I should do. Well as some of you know I'm a young male in my teenage years....When i go out on the streets I carry what the law would say 'weapons' (Kosher, knuckle duster, knife sometimes, metal bars) not to START any problems, but to protect myslef if trouble COMES TO ME!!!!!! The reason for this is becuase when walking andI get hit/jumped/racially assualted/get drawn into something I have reassurance that I got something that can help me....
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Weapons are for wimps, so the people with them will be easy to take down..Ramming yourfinger tips into a man's throat would drop'em in a second, a nice pre-emptive strike to put an end to any trouble before it starts.. Also an elbow to thetemple is most effective if attacked from behind. The whole body can be a weapon when used in the right way, that should be enough to help anyone.
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If people are carrying weapons like knifesthen don't bother with close contact fighting, you'll have to use your feet.So never fight with your body fully faced towardssomeone with aweapon, fight from the side, andyou'll make a harder target basically, and it will be alot easier to sweep the attacker of their feet, plus it will besimple to dodge most attacks, which will put them off balance leaving them open to a counter.
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If someone has a weapon like a bat or an axe then don't do what most people do and fall back and duckto avoid or soften the blow because it won't, be right next to them the minute they look like swinging it, because even if it does hit it won't do as much damage, since the swingwill be a shallow one, besides it possible to drop'em before they've even finished a swingwith a weapon like that, it can be even stopped if you're really close to them, fingertips to throat for example.
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There's only so many ways you're going to be attacked on a street, fist, knife, gun or bat. Learn about them and learn how to counter them and know about the weaknesses of using weapons, they take time to use, and in that time they could be taken down.
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Take note of your surroundings also, because a brickwall can be a useful thing. And never walk with your hands in your pockets just incase you are attacked from nowhere.
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Now if I get stopped by the police( who if anything did start they'd take the p*ss to come or wouldn't turn up) they will nabb my black ass and say something like "...THIS IS AN OFFENSIVE weapon blah blah blah..."
Which comes to the question shall I risk getting caught and carry something and maybe get caught, or carry nothing at all?
I wouldn't ifI were you. As far as I'm concerned carrying a weapon like thatmeans you intend to use it when the circumstances are just right to do so, and believe meopportunitieswill be plentiful, you'll just end up drawing that sort ofsituation into your life. If you happen to have a bag on you alot then you could put something hard inside of it like a kitchen board which could be used like a shield, if you're really worried about it.
I will say that trouble will find someone looking for it. Don't, the worse thing you could do is emulate the people with the weapons. Besides even if you did get attackedby someone with a weapon andyou had one on you also. What are the odds of walking away uninjured, not very high methinks?
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20-04-06, 11:37 AM
I've carried a Swiss Army knife for years. The model I have lets me hold it in my fist, the long blade sticking out the top, a short blade out the bottom and a spike sticking out between my fingers. And it is a useful tool, philips screw driver, flat blade, can opener, saws. I use it to file my nails.
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20-04-06, 11:37 AM
Interesting topic, I had a brother that started my boxing gym years back.. safe dude, but heuse totell meabout someidiotsalways starting onhim,last straw was when they jumpedhimoutsidea club..
Whatdidhomeboy do.. got himself a loaded gun, on the way to the boys area to threatened them, got caught by thepolice... went down for 5 years, out onprobation in2 1/2 years..criminal record,almost 3 years wasted..
Bottom line.. it just ain't worth it,avoid area where this idiotsoperate, get urself insidethe gym.. boxing, martial art etc....
Police don't want to know why you are carrying the weapon, they just know it's a deadly weapon, and that means youcan cause serious arm toanyone in the society.. you just don't need it.
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