Why oh Why man.....911 plane had missle attached...see for yourself!! - Page 2

Le Moor · (#26 (**permalink**))

This is new to me, wasnt aware of supposed explosions at the base of tower and

What are these choppers doing. ???

ftp://anonymous@38.119.178.5:4182/7w...ess%201of3.wmv

@ VK This is the video i mentioned. This guy is good. Listen to his explanation on heat, steel and demolition amongst other things and tell me what you think.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle12352.htm

Vubundada_Kandaba · (#27 (**permalink**))

@Miss Nellia, What baffles me is the suggestion that missiles were fired into the buildings before the planes hit. This is really hillarious. Imagine a civilian plane, aBoeing707 Jumbo jetto be precise firing missiles into the buildings. That is a surface to surface missile. Even the US Air-Force B-52s which are very large almost the size of a cargo plane,to my knowledge does not carry surface to surface missiles, they carry bombs such as the daisy cutterthat are dropped from the plane and the bombs fall down from the air onto the ground. This is not what they are suggesting here, instead they are saying that the civilian planes fired missiles from where is the question.

@Le Moor, I watched the second video but could not open the first one. But here is what I got from the lecture. There explanations would, key word would make sense to lay man/woman but not to most scientists and engineers. But I am not convinced nor impressed one bit. The available data they got was an example of a steel oven cooking bread and then yougot them asking questions like why wouldn't the oven melt? This is notsound engineering examples and fails miserably. To begin with first, we have never had an example of any building/s in the World apart from the World Trade Centers that were hit byfast moving jumbo jets travelling at 750 mile/hour more or less filled upwith jet fuel so there is no comparison here. Second, the steel columnsin the buildings are laid vertical and arein series. So the impact of the collision of the planeand the relative explosion of the planes onto the building weakens the column from the top down because they are interconnected. So any forces will travel up and down the length of the columns.

Concerning the World Trade Center building seven (7) that collapsed seven (7) hours later, that is a different case. Notice how they concentrated mostif not all of their arguments on this building and they just briefly mentioned the two (2) actual towers that were actually hit. This building 7was on fire and suffered structural damage as a result of the two towers that collapsed earlier. Now if that building was destroyed using controlled demolition as they suggest, thenfirst how comes no one heard TNT dynamites going off prior to the building falling? Second, how comes there are no wires on the ground several hundred meters long leading to the controls for the dynamites as we see in controll demolition? Third, nobody and the key word here is nobody carried tests on the steel and rubble of the World Trade centers. All these so called experts were looking at video pictures as evidence and then trying to come with rational explanations which do not carry weight at all.Real scientist and engineers present hard data to support their claims which I did not see in the video. All they had to support their case was speculation based on pictures. Not one of them was on the ground to collect evidence and carry out test.

Miss Nellia · (#28 (**permalink**))

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@Miss Nellia, What baffles me is the suggestion that missiles were fired into the buildings before the planes hit. This is really hillarious. Imagine a civilian plane, aBoeing707 Jumbo jetto be precise firing missiles into the buildings. That is a surface to surface missile. Even the US Air-Force B-52s which are very large almost the size of a cargo plane,to my knowledge does not carry surface to surface missiles, they carry bombs such as the daisy cutterthat are dropped from the plane and the bombs fall down from the air onto the ground. This is not what they are suggesting here, instead they are saying that the civilian planes fired missiles from where is the question.

Interesting, doesn't make sense that a passenger plane would have been fitted with deployment equipment to fire these missiles, (forgive my ignorance, I am no expert on missiles or anything, but common sense would dictate this).

@Le Moor, I watched the second video but could not open the first one. But here is what I got from the lecture. There explanations would, key word would make sense to lay man/woman but not to most scientists and engineers. But I am not convinced nor impressed one bit. The available data they got was an example of a steel oven cooking bread and then yougot them asking questions like why wouldn't the oven melt? This is notsound engineering examples and fails miserably. To begin with first, we have never had an example of any building/s in the World apart from the World Trade Centers that were hit byfast moving jumbo jets travelling at 750 mile/hour more or less filled upwith jet fuel so there is no comparison here. Second, the steel columnsin the buildings are laid vertical and arein series. So the impact of the collision of the planeand the relative explosion of the planes onto the building weakens the column from the top down because they are interconnected. So any forces will travel up and down the length of the columns.

This is the what I read about, it is the way the steel columns were laid that caused the collapse, like I said earlier they weren't designed to withstand that level of an impact and intense heat.

Concerning the World Trade Center building seven (7) that collapsed seven (7) hours later, that is a different case. Notice how they concentrated mostif not all of their arguments on this building and they just briefly mentioned the two (2) actual towers that were actually hit. This building 7was on fire and suffered structural damage as a result of the two towers that collapsed earlier. Now if that building was destroyed using controlled demolition as they suggest, thenfirst how comes no one heard TNT dynamites going off prior to the building falling? Second, how comes there are no wires on the ground several hundred meters long leading to the controls for the dynamites as we see in controll demolition? Third, nobody and the key word here is nobody carried tests on the steel and rubble of the World Trade centers. All these so called experts were looking at video pictures as evidence and then trying to come with rational explanations which do not carry weight at all.Real scientist and engineers present hard data to support their claims which I did not see in the video. All they had to support their case was speculation based on pictures. Not one of them was on the ground to collect evidence and carry out test.

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Shemsi en Tehuti · (#29 (**permalink**))

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@Le Moor, in a controlled demolition the building or structure crambles from the base first and then the whole structure falls. In other words you take out the legs(support) and it falls from below and the whole thing comes crambling down. That is not what we saw in the World Trade Center buildings when they collapsed. The buildings collapsed from the top down. That was an indication that the structures(support) at the top of the building melted us a result of the immense heat generated by the impact of the planes on the building that caused the metal support to melt and cramble. There is no demolition that collapses from the top down. Do not under-estimate the power of heat and pressure.

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I have to chime in here. The temperature for the grade of steel in the WTC would have to exceed and sustain 3000 degrees to effectively melt the steel. If a fire fighter was able to get close enough to the "2 pockets of fire" (in his words)right before it collapsed, then I doubt it was hot enough to melt steel. Furthermore, fire fighters inside the building heard bombs going off inside on different floors and manysaw "demolition-like" charges go off about every 3 floors or so. Are all theseeye witness heros delusional?

Ingonyama - he is a lion! · (#30 (**permalink**))

why are some of our brothers so stupid and hung up on f**king stupid frigging pathetic therious that anyone with an ounce of brain would see are stupid???? FFS lets just ignore such f**king stupid posts in future!

Burning Spear · (#31 (**permalink**))

Are Blacks in the UK thjis damn dense? How can a passenger plane be outfitted with a misssle launcher? I mean I really starting to question anything Black folks out of the UK post.

I saw the Pentagon on 911 and 912.I had a classmate kiled in there.

Vubundada_Kandaba · (#32 (**permalink**))

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I have to chime in here. The temperature for the grade of steel in the WTC would have to exceed and sustain 3000 degrees to effectively melt the steel. If a fire fighter was able to get close enough to the "2 pockets of fire" (in his words)right before it collapsed, then I doubt it was hot enough to melt steel. Furthermore, fire fighters inside the building heard bombs going off inside on different floors and manysaw "demolition-like" charges go off about every 3 floors or so. Are all theseeye witness heros delusional?

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I read similar stories like that but here is my question. If there were demolition in the buildings don't you think the cameras outside would have caught debris flying from the walls of the building prior to collapse? The whole World was watching at that time. Furthermore if there were demolitions going off on different floors, how comes the same firefighters were able to get off? If a TNT dynamite goes off on a floor which is a confined spaceand anyone is around then that person would either be pulvarised or the force and magnitude of the explosion would have flung them out of the windows. You can't witness an explosion going off nearyou in a confined space and escape with no injuries or even lose of limbs and torso. Most steel melt at around 1370 oC but I don't know the grade of the steel from the World Trade Center to determine its melting temperature.

Le Moor · (#33 (**permalink**))

@VK the link that you were unable to access does show smoke rising from the bottom of the towers pre collapse. Also records and plays 9 explosions which unless are fake you can clearly hear. Helicopters are filmed disappearing into the smoke and re-emrgeing around flashes. All explainable possibly but interesting nethertheless.

Try accessing this way. Hope you got windows media.

http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=911

If not goto this page http://www.question911.com/links.phpand scroll down to the first eye witness link.

Prince Hakeem · (#34 (**permalink**))

Burning Spear wrote:

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Are Blacks in the UK thjis damn dense? How can a passenger plane be outfitted with a misssle launcher? I mean I really starting to question anything Black folks out of the UK post.

I saw the Pentagon on 911 and 912.I had a classmate kiled in there.

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And I'm really starting to question your poor grammar, what with words like "thjis", "misssle" and "kiled".

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I could say a lot more to you but I won't bother. Leave BN to go on an American "Black"site where you can see displaysof intelligence you feel like are lacking here.

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Burning Spear · (#35 (**permalink**))

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Burning Spear wrote:

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Are Blacks in the UK thjis damn dense? How can a passenger plane be outfitted with a misssle launcher? I mean I really starting to question anything Black folks out of the UK post.

I saw the Pentagon on 911 and 912.I had a classmate kiled in there.

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Funny that I actually got this from an american board.....faggot.

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and if you really are starting to question what "uk black folks" post then why are you on a uk board?? how stupid are YOU?? why dont you go back to yor yankee doodle dinky danky fried catfish eating obese white woman praising gold grill wearing american boards?

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BP, you sound like a clown as much as you feen on American -anything.

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BTW that American in your sig doesn't wear a grill.