Why should I struggle for blacks in general when it's a matter of Good V Evil - Page 3

HLF · (#51 (**permalink**))

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Oh, my bad. I thought you were touting a "mixed" identity. My apologies.

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But anyway,I think it's pretty obvious that we don't associate "Whites" with evil. But you need to read a book on "White" supremacy. Then you can understand where "we" are coming from. Here is a review of one such book.

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http://www.thecode.net/features/books/yurugu_review.htm

I'm going to look into that. I did a brief search under the author and found this VERY relevant jewel of a sound byte.

I already intuitively knew about the worth of analyzing the paradigms of White and what is called Black Supremacy and finding the pattern or tendencies inside of Good and Evil, specifically how both are illustrated today (the illusion and reality), but I think this solidified that knowledge of it.

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Engineer · (#52 (**permalink**))

You have some good points liono, but you have to look at this with an open mind. If two black people kill each other it’s usually over materialism. I think mez is just annoyed that you generalized about all black people, and did back it up with some personal experiences as to why you don’t like blacks. Also at times mez can jumps the gun on issues that concern Africans & black people…she’s into Black Nationalism. She continues to ask you what you have done for black people, like she is some kind of police for African affairs?? The question can easily be switched to ask mez what has she done for black people??

For me I understand the hardships that black people have to go through. In the class room they are taught nothing but European ideas and culture and so many of our sisters get sucked into this climate that they lose some of their African traits. Black children in the home have little help when it comes to education, so much so that the only thing he/ she takes away from this is negative experience is a useless mind. If they had a room where the parents keep all the books about positive African history( I know they are hard to come by) the children will at least have some defense against racism & falsification of history. Speaking from personal experience I understand the constant negative history of Africa and how we as a people are not taken seriously and everybody in the world is taught to hate us. It does not help the situation when our own people are fighting among themselves. We need to cut each other some slack, because other racists aren’t going to.

Abissinia · (#53 (**permalink**))

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For me I understand the hardships that black people have to go through. In the class room they are taught nothing but European ideas and culture and so many of our sisters get sucked into this climate that they lose some of their African traits.

I still maintain that you are the most vile, sexist pig on BN. How the hell did you switch that in to attacking black women?

Also Mez is not the one bitching about giving up on African people (i.e. his bigger contribution posting pics of white wanna be "black") so your stupid question makes no sense.

Kunjufu · (#54 (**permalink**))

Liono: interesting post..however if I may two key contradictions that I picked up that needs further thoughts..

1. there is no such thing as EVIL people, people are not BORN evil.. There is a difference between doing evil deeds and being intrinsically EVIL... I would also argue the functionalist line which states that good and evil are of equal value to society ..

2. Last time I remembered the word was 'struggle' a struggle by definition does not for me at least denote a clear path, an uncomplicated path nor does denote a path that does not test or force us to rethink our position.... we should move from strggling with issue to just giving up...that would be a mistake..imo

Engineer · (#55 (**permalink**))

Abissinia wrote:

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I still maintain that you are the most vile, sexist pig on BN. How the hell did you switch that in to attacking black women?

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Attacking black women? No i just stated a fact, a fact that i see day inand day out. i have no personal grievances against young black women. But the raw issue i have with them, is their minds...their western minds. Iwill notgeneralize and say all Africans that move to the west become westernized, but most do and that's a fact. The western blacks that already live in the west have no real choice as they where born into this society. So I go easy on them, I’m more patient with them as a whole.

About me being a sexist pig? i will refine from insulting you as that reduce this thread to nothing more than school yard squabbles.

TheDogon · (#56 (**permalink**))

Liono wrote:

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Oh, my bad. I thought you were touting a "mixed" identity. My apologies.

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But anyway,I think it's pretty obvious that we don't associate "Whites" with evil. But you need to read a book on "White" supremacy. Then you can understand where "we" are coming from. Here is a review of one such book.

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http://www.thecode.net/features/books/yurugu_review.htm

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Why would I want to read a book on white supremacy when there is also black supremacistswho equallyrepresents the evils of their race as dothe muslim extremistsin Islam.

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Reading that is like giving me the key to thedoor to a f*cked up reality plain and simple.

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??? Liono, you don't know what "White" supremacy is.How many organizations tout"Black"racial supremacy asopposed to "White" ones?I think a lot of this stuffis just beyond your ability to understand. But the concepts are pretty simple."Whites"created the concept of race merely for the purposes of proving "White" supremacy.

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"Blacks"have been tryingto catch up ever since.

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And if you don't feel comfortable with"Black" people telling you this, go to http://www.euroamerican.org.

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There are plenty of Koreans, "Whites", Latinos, Chinese, etc., etc. who are willing to explainit to you.

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It isisn't "White" versus "Black". It is "White" versus non-"White".

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jett Black · (#57 (**permalink**))

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Mezmerized

DAMN! DAMN! Why so hard? I supposed this is what happenswhen one doesn't agree with the position of another.

PaRris

Quality pic Bacooclp)ROTFL

Mezmerized · (#58 (**permalink**))

BIG L wrote:

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You have some good points liono, but you have to look at this with an open mind. If two black people kill each other it’s usually over materialism. I think mez is just annoyed that you generalized about all black people, and did back it up with some personal experiences as to why you don’t like blacks. Also at times mez can jumps the gun on issues that concern Africans & black people…she’s into Black Nationalism. She continues to ask you what you have done for black people, like she is some kind of police for African affairs?? The question can easily be switched to ask mez what has she done for black people??

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Lol....so now we have to start threads about an ENTIRE race just because aFEW individuals got onour nerves??? Is that what you call PROGRESIVE andproductive??And no, he cannotask me what i do because i am NOT the one whostarted a stupid thread full of insultsabout Africans just because of a 15 years old boy who got murdered at TWO ambecause of mistaken identity. Its like if we Africans walk around shooting our own children for no reason and King Liono here who does so MUCH for the black race has had enough!

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If he did DO anything, i can promise you that he would have been the first to brag about it....he ain't answering because he is just the type who just LOVES to blame OTHER people for their problem...depression etc.

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I suggest you shut your tripe before i geton your case as well you sexist, tribalist PEST!

For me I understand the hardships that black people have to go through. In the class room they are taught nothing but European ideas and culture and so many of our sisters get sucked into this climate that they lose some of their African traits. Black children in the home have little help when it comes to education, so much so that the only thing he/ she takes away from this is negative experience is a useless mind. If they had a room where the parents keep all the books about positive African history( I know they are hard to come by) the children will at least have some defense against racism & falsification of history. Speaking from personal experience I understand the constant negative history of Africa and how we as a people are not taken seriously and everybody in the world is taught to hate us. It does not help the situation when our own people are fighting among themselves. We need to cut each other some slack, because other racists aren’t going to.

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Lol...isn't ironic that you are actually INSULTING Caribbeans on your above diatribe?? We all know that when YOU say Black, it means Caribbeans and Africans, meaning C Africans.

And how did women, education, bad parenting, lack of history come into this?? Did you actually READ what Liono typed in the opening thread?

**shakes head**

Abissinia · (#59 (**permalink**))

@Big L you are not intelligent enough to get away with patronising people.... lol about going easy on Wester blacks

knucklehead please.........

TheDogon · (#60 (**permalink**))

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