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Post imported post - 23-10-06, 07:09 AM

How Britain became frightened of its young
By Catriona Davies

Last Updated: 1:32am BST23/10/2006

Britain is becoming fearful of its young people with most adults too scared to intervene if they see misbehaviour in the street, a report says.

It claims there is a growing "paedophobia" among adults and confusion as to who is to blame for the problems of wayward youth.

The Institute of Public Policy Research, the think tank which carried out the research, found that only 34 per cent of adults would be willing to intervene if they saw a group of 14-year-old boys vandalising a bus shelter. In contrast, 65 per cent of Germans, 52 per cent of Spaniards and 50 per cent of Italians said they would intervene.


Of the Britons unwilling to step in, 39 per cent said they feared being physically attacked, 14 per cent were scared of later reprisals and 12 per cent feared verbal abuse.

Britons were also more likely than other Europeans to say that young people are responsible for antisocial behaviour. Seventy nine per cent gave "lack of discipline" as the root cause, compared with 69 per cent of Spaniards, 62 per cent of Italians and 58 per cent of French people.

The report, Freedom's Orphans: Raising Youth in a Changing World, to be published next month, said that both condemnation of teenagers and attempts to absolve them from all blame were misplaced.

Nick Pearce, the IPPR's director, said: "The debate about childhood in Britain is polarised between false opposites: that either children or adults are to blame. It also ignores inequalities in the transition to adulthood. Many children are safer, healthier and better educated than in the past, whilst others suffer complex, traumatic routes through adolescence.

"A rise in social 'paedophobia' will simply make matters worse. In the past, local parents tended to look out for children in a community, deciding what behaviour was appropriate, how it should be dealt with and supporting each other in doing so.

"In closer knit communities, adults supervised their neighbours' children. These days, adults tend to turn a blind eye or cross over on the other side of the road rather than intervene in the discipline of another person's child, often because they fear they might be attacked."

The report found that 1.5 million Britons thought about moving home because of young people hanging around and 1.7 million avoided going out after dark.

They were three times more likely to complain about young people hanging around than noisy neighbours. The report claimed that structured activities, such as sports, scouts or martial arts, were better for young people than unstructured youth clubs.

It found that at the age of 30, people who had attended structured activities at the age of 16 were slightly less likely than average to be depressed, living in social housing, have no qualifications and to be single, separated or divorced.

Those who had attended youth clubs were slightly more likely than average to smoke, be single parents, commit crimes or have a low income. The report recommends that every secondary school pupil should be required to take part in two hours of structured extracurricular activities a week.

It said there could be fines for parents who do not insist their children take part, in the same way as parents are punished for their children's truancy.

A separate report, by the children's charity Barnado's, claims that young people have been "demonised" by politicians and the media.

Pam Hibbert, the principal policy officer for the charity, said that wearing hoodies and meeting friends on the street was all part of growing up.

She said: "We have become fearful of all children. We know for example young crime in itself has remained fairly static in the last 10 years, it is a minority that cause problems and retaliate."

Barnado's said there was a lack of activities involving young people and adults such as growing vegetables in allotments or adults helping at young centres.


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How Britain became frightened of its young
By Catriona Davies

Last Updated: 1:32am BST23/10/2006

Britain is becoming fearful of its young people with most adults too scared to intervene if they see misbehaviour in the street, a report says.

It claims there is a growing "paedophobia" among adults and confusion as to who is to blame for the problems of wayward youth.

The Institute of Public Policy Research, the think tank which carried out the research, found that only 34 per cent of adults would be willing to intervene if they saw a group of 14-year-old boys vandalising a bus shelter. In contrast, 65 per cent of Germans, 52 per cent of Spaniards and 50 per cent of Italians said they would intervene.


Of the Britons unwilling to step in, 39 per cent said they feared being physically attacked, 14 per cent were scared of later reprisals and 12 per cent feared verbal abuse.

Britons were also more likely than other Europeans to say that young people are responsible for antisocial behaviour. Seventy nine per cent gave "lack of discipline" as the root cause, compared with 69 per cent of Spaniards, 62 per cent of Italians and 58 per cent of French people.

The report, Freedom's Orphans: Raising Youth in a Changing World, to be published next month, said that both condemnation of teenagers and attempts to absolve them from all blame were misplaced.

Nick Pearce, the IPPR's director, said: "The debate about childhood in Britain is polarised between false opposites: that either children or adults are to blame. It also ignores inequalities in the transition to adulthood. Many children are safer, healthier and better educated than in the past, whilst others suffer complex, traumatic routes through adolescence.

"A rise in social 'paedophobia' will simply make matters worse. In the past, local parents tended to look out for children in a community, deciding what behaviour was appropriate, how it should be dealt with and supporting each other in doing so.

"In closer knit communities, adults supervised their neighbours' children. These days, adults tend to turn a blind eye or cross over on the other side of the road rather than intervene in the discipline of another person's child, often because they fear they might be attacked."

The report found that 1.5 million Britons thought about moving home because of young people hanging around and 1.7 million avoided going out after dark.

They were three times more likely to complain about young people hanging around than noisy neighbours. The report claimed that structured activities, such as sports, scouts or martial arts, were better for young people than unstructured youth clubs.

It found that at the age of 30, people who had attended structured activities at the age of 16 were slightly less likely than average to be depressed, living in social housing, have no qualifications and to be single, separated or divorced.

Those who had attended youth clubs were slightly more likely than average to smoke, be single parents, commit crimes or have a low income. The report recommends that every secondary school pupil should be required to take part in two hours of structured extracurricular activities a week.

It said there could be fines for parents who do not insist their children take part, in the same way as parents are punished for their children's truancy.

A separate report, by the children's charity Barnado's, claims that young people have been "demonised" by politicians and the media.

Pam Hibbert, the principal policy officer for the charity, said that wearing hoodies and meeting friends on the street was all part of growing up.

She said: "We have become fearful of all children. We know for example young crime in itself has remained fairly static in the last 10 years, it is a minority that cause problems and retaliate."

Barnado's said there was a lack of activities involving young people and adults such as growing vegetables in allotments or adults helping at young centres.

Id agree with that, can you blame us though when know youtes are carrying bladesbigger than any in the local butchers'



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Post imported post - 23-10-06, 08:58 AM

Does that mean youth clubs are bad? confused3confused3

How odd!

As for "stepping in" that's what that poor African brother did in Hackney last month when he asked the kids on his block to stop making noise because he had work in the morning. They stabbed him to death.


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I'd like to think I would intervene, or say something if youths are being antisocial, but I just don't know.

That's one of the reasons I no longer use public transport. I'd probably be dead by now!

I worry about my daughter too, as she's been cursed for turning down advances.
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Post imported post - 23-10-06, 10:46 AM

If you live in an area where youths are misbehaving, you're more pissed that you can't afford to move.
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Post imported post - 23-10-06, 11:22 AM

sorry, its only the government to blame

we have anti-smacking societies

e have teachers getting the sacked for discplining kids

we have social workers intervening

we have police arresting the person for hitting a minor , even the minor deserved.

boi if i was 12 years old know, i would go buck wild and hit everyone without getting punished.

its NOT the kids problem.




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Post imported post - 23-10-06, 11:43 AM

Too right! These children lack fear because they know that ridiculous laws are in place.

It always comes back to lack of community though, back when I was little, if you misbehaved- someone in the neighborhood would either correct you or grass you up to your parents.

My life of crime lasted exactly one incident and my father was waiting at home with the belt.


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My life of crime lasted exactly one incident and my father was waiting at home with the belt.



Thats where it all starts.


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Let me clarify:

My life of crime started AND ENDED with one incident when I was about 8, I got grassed and got whupped.


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Although I believe the government are partly to blame for the situation I think that they should only carry a small part of it. The government can only react to when a kid turns bad by snding them to youth detention etc. If some parents acted like parents and not their kids friends by discplining them and schooling them in their 'rights' the government and the rest of us wouldn't have to deal with the consequences.

If your kids end up with a ASBO or on an electronic tag, its YOUR fault. Some the ways some of these youths carry on today I wouldn't dare do. No other adults in the community needed to correct my behaviour because I always had manners on road because I was brought up properly, some parents don't even know where their kids half the time let alone discipline them.

My school day ended at 3.15pm and if I wasn't back by a certain time, questions were asked, meanwhile enough of my friends would take buses to the local shopping centre to hang out with no consequences.

Also with the youth centre thing, in many cases they are bad. In certain areas your kids are safer in your yard. All the 'bad' kids used to go to my youth centre asit was the easiest place to meet up and the youngdrug dealerscame to sell weed.
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