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19-11-06, 10:24 PM
--thus fueling a never ending cycle of poverty and misery....
Isn't it the ultimate selfish act to bring a child into the world knowing that they will probably suffer starvation or malnutrition?
Be honest, when you watch the news and they show a family of 9 living in a refugee camp and pleading for food, what goes through your mind?
Is poverty made worse by over-population or do poor people need to breed due to high mortality rates etc...the chicken vs the egg debate...
Countries wth high populations seem to suffer for it in high crime, high mortality and lower quality of life. Is this true?
Will African lives improve only when we cut down on population growth?
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I think poverty and ignorance have a strong correlation with one another.
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20-11-06, 11:12 AM
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--thus fueling a never ending cycle of poverty and misery....
Isn't it the ultimate selfish act to bring a child into the world knowing that they will probably suffer starvation or malnutrition?
Be honest, when you watch the news and they show a family of 9 living in a refugee camp and pleading for food, what goes through your mind?
Is poverty made worse by over-population or do poor people need to breed due to high mortality rates etc...the chicken vs the egg debate...
Countries wth high populations seem to suffer for it in high crime, high mortality and lower quality of life. Is this true?
Will African lives improve only when we cut down on population growth?
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Because they can't afford contraception!
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Actually the notion that population growth is a cause of poverty is a highly debatable.
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20-11-06, 12:49 PM
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--thus fueling a never ending cycle of poverty and misery....
Isn't it the ultimate selfish act to bring a child into the world knowing that they will probably suffer starvation or malnutrition?
Be honest, when you watch the news and they show a family of 9 living in a refugee camp and pleading for food, what goes through your mind?
Is poverty made worse by over-population or do poor people need to breed due to high mortality rates etc...the chicken vs the egg debate...
Countries wth high populations seem to suffer for it in high crime, high mortality and lower quality of life. Is this true?
Will African lives improve only when we cut down on population growth?
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20-11-06, 02:07 PM
The future....Evolution....Perfection.

10yrs ago I went to texas and was introduced to the world of chop n screwed music....10yrs later Im still bumpin it.
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20-11-06, 03:50 PM
-this has nothing to do with being black or the meaning-
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20-11-06, 04:40 PM
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--thus fueling a never ending cycle of poverty and misery....
Isn't it the ultimate selfish act to bring a child into the world knowing that they will probably suffer starvation or malnutrition?
Be honest, when you watch the news and they show a family of 9 living in a refugee camp and pleading for food, what goes through your mind?
Is poverty made worse by over-population or do poor people need to breed due to high mortality rates etc...the chicken vs the egg debate...
Countries wth high populations seem to suffer for it in high crime, high mortality and lower quality of life. Is this true?
Will African lives improve only when we cut down on population growth?
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Do Africans have access to birth control? And, I'm not counting flimsy condoms which can break. If developed nations could supply birth control to those Africans who desire it, this would go a long way in reducing the over-population problem.
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20-11-06, 05:26 PM
Theres no system of living in impoverished countires, them breeding like no ones business is a good thing its classic,pisses off those oppressors trust me.
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Because people live by a system in the west people have abnormal consepts of, ''breeding''.
In the west people have to afford to have a child as you said but since when did money come into having pickney? Because it costs so much to have a kid in the westpeople only have two children on average, in 'impoverished' countries theresno system to live by and so people have more children. If they had to balance a mortgage, various loans and lived in cities with a lack of community spiritto help raise said children they'd have less. Its alldue tothe lack of time people in cities have to themselves and the stress and strain involved most kids end up having a Tvas a literal pusedoparent because mommy and daddy are too tired to play after work.
Our basic (human) function is to have children, to populate (and live with) the earth. Money shouldn't be an issue when rearing children.Even heard that because of infant deaths insome places people have even more children to compensate and make sure their community strives.
Then of course you have the instilled greed of people in rich countries, people who would rather save for a flash ride than rear a child so they abort.. might get in the way of their career. Things like that aren't rightbut you hear it on the regular like its normal to put yourself first and abort a child because it meansyou can't afford a new BMW... the leave might make the boss frown, too young to be tied down etc etc.
So the population of the, '3rd world' grows at a much faster rate than in developed countries and its a damn good thing, western governments talk about depopulation its that big an issue for them. In fact theres more of us (Africans)than there are europeans. Would have to find the stats on that though, pretty sure we out number them globally. Just can't remember where I got the figures from.
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20-11-06, 05:34 PM
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20-11-06, 05:35 PM
Why do poor people keep breeding?
Because the rich need people to keep them rich.
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20-11-06, 05:37 PM
Some devolping nations have high birth rates to compensate for the fact that their life expectancy rates are so low. If most of the population don't even make it to 45 then they have to keep having lots of kids to cover this problem. Low life expectany keeps countries poor as not enough of the population are around long enough for their to be any real stability.
Like someone else said they also need access to birth control methods like the pill but the stupid Catholic religion that many follow prevents this.
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20-11-06, 06:22 PM
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Our basic (human) function is to have children, to populate (and live with) the earth. Money shouldn't be an issue when rearing children.
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Exactly. Thats why i'm asking if population growth is sustainable for Africa and the world as a whole? Climate change is coming and will affect Africa quite drastically, causing expanding deserts and lack of water. I think that over population will make the problem worse because there will be less resources for more people. Its simple maths really isn't it?
Its all good saying we outnumber them but I think the focus should be on sustainable growth and development. Giving your children a chance to thrive, not just barely survive.
How fair is it to be born into a clan with no resources, no food and hardly any water? Its the kids I feel for. The poor poor kids who are born, know nothing but suffering and then die...
Kids like this...
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20-11-06, 06:26 PM
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Birth control would help, but education and family planning would go much much further...
It would take a landmark paradigm shift to tell people literally: Less is More
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20-11-06, 09:01 PM
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20-11-06, 11:48 PM
Since when is Africa over-populated? Look at the population of the UK or US and the land available compared to the poulation of Ghana or Kenya. The UK has 60 million people in a small plot of land and Ghana has 22 million in a vastly larger tract of land. Yet no-one suggests that the UK is overpopulated.
For the level of African poverty to be solved by cutting down on populalatiothen you would have to go further than the Chinese/ and limit children to only 1/3 of the poulation or less.
Nope its this same rubbish that is claimed and fed into people's heads in school geography lessons as one of the solutions to "third world poverty".
Africa is not overpopulated.The human capital it has is underdeveloped though. Thats closer to the truth. The leaders are witholding the resources of the countries so that only so much is distributed to so few. The solution is not to reduce the few!!
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21-11-06, 12:09 AM
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But I think it should havebeen posted on the politics thread. It is after all a Political Question.
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21-11-06, 12:18 AM
Ok I've only read a few but from what I have read there seems to be some idea in peoples head that Africa is overpopulated!
Why do people think Africa is overpopulated?
(even if it is subconciously)
Where does that idea{image} come from?
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21-11-06, 12:47 AM
The women, of all age groups,who give birth in these conditions (you saw, many times) Risk death everytime.
And many manyof themdo die, either giving birth or down to related complications.
All of them poor.
Just like in Europe and America less than 100yrs ago.
Someone above responded with...
Why do poor people keep breeding?
Because the rich need people to keep them rich.
clp)clp)Simply put...
@SUK
What is the story behind those two images you posted?
What country? What happened? What dates?
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Since when is Africa over-populated? Look at the population of the UK or US and the land available compared to the poulation of Ghana or Kenya. The UK has 60 million people in a small plot of land and Ghana has 22 million in a vastly larger tract of land. Yet no-one suggests that the UK is overpopulated.
For the level of African poverty to be solved by cutting down on populalatiothen you would have to go further than the Chinese/ and limit children to only 1/3 of the poulation or less.
Nope its this same rubbish that is claimed and fed into people's heads in school geography lessons as one of the solutions to "third world poverty".
Africa is not overpopulated.The human capital it has is underdeveloped though. Thats closer to the truth. The leaders are witholding the resources of the countries so that only so much is distributed to so few. The solution is not to reduce the few!!
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Nope its this same rubbish that is claimed and fed into people's heads in school geography lessons as one of the solutions to "third world poverty".
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Africa is not overpopulated.The human capital it has is underdeveloped though. Thats closer to the truth. The leaders are witholding the resources of the countries so that only so much is distributed to so few. The solution is not to reduce the few!!
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21-11-06, 12:58 AM
AS SAD AS IT SOUNDS I THINK THEY SOULD KEEP RE-POPULATING AS THE AIM OF THESE DUDES IS TO WIPE THE AFRICAN FROM HIS HOME MELINATED PEOPLE TO THAT EFFECT (AUSTRALIA/CARRIBEAN/AFRICA/AMERICAS)
SOUNDS CRAZY
BUT CHECK THIS OUT IN YOUR OWN TIME
1 WHAT ARE THE IN THE CONTENTS OF VACCINES
2 IS THE FOOD DELIVERED TO POOR CONTRIES NUTRITIOUS TO SUSTAIN LONG LIFE
3 WHY ARE THERE WARS IN CERTAIN POOR AREAS AND IF THEIR POOR HOW CAN THEY CAN GET GUNS
4 ARE THE CACAISIANS A DYING SPECIES
5 IF YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT OR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHY DONT WE DO SOMTHING INSTED OF LEAVING IT IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO KINDA HAD A HAND IN LEAVING THEM IN THE STATE IN THE FIRST PLACE
6 DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD STOP HAVING BABYS AND NOT CONTINUE THE BLOOD LINE THAT HAS EXISTED FOR OVER ?????? YEARS
7 SHOULD THEY BE ALL SHIPPED TO THE SUPPOSEDLY CALLED 2ND AND FIRST WORLDS
NICE FEEDBACK PLEASE
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getting interesting.....
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21-11-06, 11:28 AM
in the west children are seen as a burden, elsewhere children are seen as a blessing
a burden in the west because as simon cowell said on this morning children and marriage mean less money for self(paraphrased)
the truth is you dont need that much money to provide the basics
if you live at one with nature you dont need no money at all
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21-11-06, 01:05 PM
Isn't China supposed to be the most populated country in the world?
I'musually a fan of yours stick-up but this thread really takes the biscuit! It seems as though you have been reading one too many Sun newspaper.
"Be honest, when you watch the news and they show a family of 9 living in a refugee camp and pleading for food, what goes through your mind?"
What should go through minds is how such a rich Continent is continually raped by European overseers and how carefully construed words put together by tv journalists can totally misrepresent what is really happening there.
And how many sapsbelieve them on face-value.
"One of the heads of the beast seemed to have been fatally wounded, but the wound had healed. The whole earth was amazed and followed the beast".
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I don't read the sun. Not even for free on the net.
I know its a bit provocative - that was my intention...Trust i'm not a news sap.
On a serious note, I still think its unfair to the kids to be born into such misery...
That's the my main point -- if you're in a dire situation you shouldn't be bringing in children to the world. Its selfish. Kids don't ask to be born. You gotta remember that.
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--thus fueling a never ending cycle of poverty and misery....
Isn't it the ultimate selfish act to bring a child into the world knowing that they will probably suffer starvation or malnutrition?
Be honest, when you watch the news and they show a family of 9 living in a refugee camp and pleading for food, what goes through your mind?
Is poverty made worse by over-population or do poor people need to breed due to high mortality rates etc...the chicken vs the egg debate...
Countries wth high populations seem to suffer for it in high crime, high mortality and lower quality of life. Is this true?
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Because they can't afford contraception!
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Birth control has nothing to do with poverty. Africans don't have anymore children than any other group of people do on average. Africans just need control over their resources to make them work for themselves instead of others...period.
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To be always answering questions and mounting defenses about things you thought were obvious keeps you from doing your work.
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