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Default For once in my life - 23-06-07, 12:41 AM

i was talking to some white guy at my uni and for some reason we got into a debate on black history
he mentioned that white people had invented the computer, the lightbulb,elevators,the calculator, cars etc.

and he asked what black people had ever invented? and i was speachless for once in my life i had no idea what to say

i know we have a great past *ancient civilizations*
but in this modern day and age what have we been the first to make?

if anybody could post a link it would be greatly appreciated

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Default 23-06-07, 01:35 AM

LMAO. Try math... just for starters... wiki is your friend...


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Lightbulb 23-06-07, 02:15 AM

This will be good to watch for starters:





Personally I no longer debate with yurugu on African history, even when they come at me under the guise of being 'genuinely' curious.


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Default 23-06-07, 02:36 AM

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math? okay

prince hakim-very informative post thank u
and i don't make it a point to argue with white people but when they come at you arrogantly in front of other people with a question like that you have to have a response
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Default 23-06-07, 03:42 AM

tweet...stupid illogical stiffs like this guy just don’t see reason..

If one asks a such questions...there's no reason to keep the convo going...this rat, will not care what ever you mention or say......


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On top of that, he's a Uni student......just shows what kind of education they teach.....


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Default 23-06-07, 04:27 AM

^that's true
but it was'nt just me and him it was in front of alot of people, so i had to defend our race as i was the only black person that was in that area at the time
and our uni is a good one very multicultural (T.O) i think his attitude is something he was bred with at home

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Default 23-06-07, 04:58 AM

tweet - you have nothing to prove to these greys. You need to be smart and flip the ignorant script back onto them. The next time a grey asks you what have Africans invented, tell the grey it's for them to go and research and come back and tell you. Don't you think it's more than ironic that these greys can research and find out just about anything they want yet when it comes to Africans and their contribution to society and the world they draw a blank.
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Default 23-06-07, 05:45 AM

it is ironic indeed, will try that approach if it ever happens again
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Default 23-06-07, 08:27 AM

This was copied and pasted from this site, if you want to have a look

Inventions Created By Black People

air conditioning unit: Frederick M. Jones; July 12, 1949
almanac: Benjamin Banneker; Approx 1791
auto cut-off switch: Granville T. Woods; January 1,1839
auto fishing devise: G. Cook; May 30, 1899
automatic gear shift: Richard Spikes; February 28, 1932
baby buggy: W.H. Richardson; June 18, 1899
bicycle frame: L.R. Johnson; Octber 10, 1899
biscuit cutter: A.P. Ashbourne; November 30, 1875
blood plasma bag: Charles Drew; Approx. 1945
cellular phone: Henry T. Sampson; July 6, 1971
chamber commode: T. Elkins; January 3, 1897
clothes dryer: G. T. Sampson; June 6, 1862
curtain rod: S. R. Scratton; November 30, 1889
curtain rod support: William S. Grant; August 4, 1896
door knob: O. Dorsey; December 10, 1878
door stop: O. Dorsey; December 10, 1878
dust pan: Lawrence P. Ray; August 3, 1897
egg beater: Willie Johnson; February 5, 1884
electric lampbulb: Lewis Latimer; March 21, 1882
elevator: Alexander Miles; October 11, 1867
eye protector: P. Johnson; November 2, 1880
fire escape ladder: J. W. Winters; May 7, 1878
fire extinguisher: T. Marshall; October 26, 1872
folding bed: L. C. Bailey; July 18, 1899
folding chair: Brody & Surgwar; June 11, 1889
fountain pen: W. B. Purvis; January 7, 1890
furniture caster: O. A. Fisher; 1878
gas mask: Garrett Morgan; October 13, 1914
golf tee: T. Grant; December 12, 1899
guitar: Robert F. Flemming, Jr. March 3, 1886
hair brush: Lydia O. Newman; November 15,18--
hand stamp: Walter B. Purvis; February 27, 1883
horse shoe: J. Ricks; March 30, 1885
ice cream scooper: A. L. Cralle; February 2, 1897
improv. sugar making: Norbet Rillieux; December 10, 1846
insect-destroyer gun: A. C. Richard; February 28, 1899
ironing board: Sarah Boone; December 30, 1887
key chain: F. J. Loudin; January 9, 1894
lantern: Michael C. Harvey; August 19, 1884
lawn mower: L. A. Burr; May 19, 1889
lawn sprinkler: J. W. Smith; May 4, 1897
lemon squeezer: J. Thomas White; December 8, 1893
lock: W. A. Martin; July 23, 18--
lubricating cup: Ellijah McCoy; November 15, 1895
lunch pail: James Robinson; 1887
mail box: Paul L. Downing; October 27, 1891
mop: Thomas W. Stewart; June 11, 1893
motor: Frederick M. Jones; June 27, 1939
peanut butter: George Washington Carver; 1896
pencil sharpener: J. L. Love; November 23, 1897
record player arm: Joseph Hunger Dickenson January 8, 1819
refrigerator: J. Standard; June 14, 1891
riding saddles: W. D. Davis; October 6, 1895
rolling pin: John W. Reed; 1864
shampoo headrest: C. O. Bailiff; October 11, 1898
spark plug: Edmond Berger; February 2, 1839
stethoscope: Imhotep; Ancient Egypt
stove: T. A. Carrington; July 25, 1876
straightening comb: Madam C. J. Walker; Approx 1905
street sweeper: Charles B. Brooks; March 17, 1890
phone transmitter: Granville T. Woods; December 2, 1884
thermostat control: Frederick M. Jones; February 23, 1960
traffic light: Garrett Morgan; November 20, 1923
tricycle: M. A. Cherry; May 6, 1886
typewriter: Burridge & Marshman; April 7, 1885

Other things invented by Blacks People
Break Dancing
Chess
Jazz
Blues
Rap
Reggae, Ska
Rock and Roll
Super Water Blaster
Fiber Optics


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Take it for granted the slaves made many a contribution...even if only a suggestion...only the slavemasters took the credit as slaves had no rights. African history has been destroyed. If they can destroy the nose of the sphinx and other egyptian sculpture to disguise the fact they were based on African features just think what else they have destroyed.

Add sculpture to the list. The Nubians had that art mastered to the letter!...along with contributions to construction architecture. They built the first homes while many dwelled in mother nature provided caves!

Language, writing, even paper to write on...

Ok, we often refer to ancient Egyptian Africa for reference but if some scrawny grey boy who doesn't know his ares from his elbow can make claim to fame based on what other greys have invented...so can Africans!

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Take it for granted the slaves made many a contribution...even if only a suggestion...only the slavemasters took the credit as slaves had no rights.
I agree. if you look at the list i posted, alot of them are household inventions, as Black folks in those days (the dates the things were invented) were either slaves or else servants, which would have been the only jobs they could get at the time.

In addition, what this list doesn;t include, is all the inventions associated with early railroads/railway lines in America (and there are ALOT of them. I will have to see if i can dig up that list too.) Black folks worked on the railroads in those days because the job was flat out dangerous and white folks wouldn;t do it. Black folks invented alot of safety features among other things. If i can find that list, i will post it.


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Sophisticated Mathematics Behind African Village Designs / Fractal patterns use repetition on large, small scale

Sophisticated Mathematics Behind African Village Designs
Fractal patterns use repetition on large, small scale

"In 1988, Ron Eglash was studying aerial photographs of a traditional Tanzanian village when a strangely familiar pattern caught his eye.

The thatched-roof huts were organized in a geometric pattern of circular clusters within circular clusters, an arrangement Eglash recognized from his former days as a Silicon Valley computer engineer. Stunned, Eglash digitized the images and fed the information into a computer. The computer's calculations agreed with his intuition: He was seeing fractals."

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In contrast to the relatively ordered world of Euclidean geometry taught in most classrooms, fractal geometry yields less obvious patterns. These patterns appear everywhere in nature, yet mathematicians began deciphering them only about 30 years ago.

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After detecting the surprising fractal patterns, Eglash began going to museums and libraries to study aerial photographs from other cultures around the world.

``My assumption was that all indigenous architecture would be more fractal,'' he said. ``My reasoning was that all indigenous architecture tends to be organized from the bottom up.'' This bottom-up, or self- organized, plan contrasts with a top- down, or hierarchical, plan in which only a few people decide where all the houses will go.

``As it turns out, though, my reasoning was wrong,'' he said. ``For example, if you look at Native American architecture, you do not see fractals. In fact, they're quite rare.'' Instead, Native American architecture is based on a combination of circular and square symmetry, he said.

Pueblo Bonito, an ancient ruin in northwestern New Mexico built by the Anasazi people, consists of a big circular shape made of connected squares. This architectural design theme is repeated in American Indian pottery, weaving and even folklore, said Eglash.

When Eglash looked elsewhere in the world, he saw different geometric design themes being used by native cultures. But he found widespread use of fractal geometry only in Africa and southern India, leading him to conclude that fractals weren't a universal design theme.

Focusing on Africa, he sought to answer what property of fractals made them so widespread in the culture.

``If they used circular houses, they would use circles within circles,'' he said. ``If they used rectangles you would see rectangles within rectangles. I would see these huge plazas. Those would narrow down to broad avenues, those would narrow down to smaller streets, and those would keep branching down to tiny footpaths. From a European point of view, that may look like chaos, but from a mathematical view it's the chaos of chaos theory -- it's fractal geometry.''

Eglash expanded on his work in Africa after he won a Fulbright Grant in 1993. He toured central and western Africa, going as far north as the Sahel, the area just south of the Sahara Desert, and as far south as the equator. He visited seven countries in all.

``Basically, I just toured around looking for fractals, and when I found something that had a scaling geometry, I would ask the folks what was going on -- why they had made it that way,'' he said.

In some cases, Eglash found that fractal designs were based purely on aesthetics -- they simply looked good to the people who used them. In many cases, however, Eglash found that step-by-step mathematical procedures were producing these designs, many of them surprisingly sophisticated. "

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Didn't need Europeans to tell them about Fractal Geometry.
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