i had a really interesting discussion with one of my friends lecturers about the types of society that lived in the past and how people could get more food than say in todays society where everything has a dollar value attached to it. i was wondering if it would be possible to build a civilization without the constraints of money and value of material possession.

people in this society would get the basic needs like food, clothing, housing ect. it would satisfies all human needs on a basic level, other stuff like Health care, Education, would be used to better the society rather than payed for to increase profits. jobs could be used to better the country rather than drive up profits.

do you think this is a good idea or is our current social hierarchy to selfish to live up to this dream?

Yes it's possible. People can work for free and contribute to society.
You ever see people who love doing what they do. They tell yo uthat they don't feel like they're working. Singers love to sing, even if you didn't pay them. Some people love to build and fix things. They get enjoyment out of it. People who cook alot love to do so like it's breathing. This would be a society where everyone followed their calling instead of the paycheck.

NO

Money would only be substituted for something else, food, skins, livestock. Throughout the world that is what we have always done.

Just human nature to trade something for a service. Unless we go back to living in small villages, but I doubt I see that happening.

For us to live like that would mean someone would have to go into services that they really do not want to do for the greater good or we draft people on a yearly basis to do these services, but do we want a gifted doctor to take time away from saving lives to shovel crap for a year?

We had that in ancient times. Everyone living off the land. Certain places in S. Amer., Pap.N.G and Africa life is still like that.

It is possible but in so called 'western' places today wealthy people would never give up their riches to become 'part of the people'. You'd need a culture to accept living like that.


If all money suddenly vanished tonight, by morning someone would invent currency so they could 'benefit' from the situation.

The challenge is in the regulation of the currency whatever that may be..

At the moment White Supremacist Racists regulate all the currencies in the world through deception, threat of violence and violence. (World Bank and IMF etc.)

Its possible but with the state of the world its impossible which is why the system has to be brought down completely and utterly so it can't be revived.

I believe that it's not money per se but INTEREST RATES that cause the greatest damage.

This is what has caused the problems in African Countries, the Mortgage misery and most of all the SHORT TERM thinking of developments, and BUSINESSes in general.

Take away the interest rates and you have a more caring and progressive society that can look long term.

This has to be a better way than the Dollar standard which brings with it volitility across most currencies and especially those countries that are Commodity driven Like Copper (Zambia) Oil (Nigeria) etc.

In many societies where money is sparse, communities develop methods and alternatives to standard monetary policies, most recently in Germany there has been a resurgence of local money which is a counter buffer to the Euro.

Community currencies could be developed that would allow them to flush without dependance of the monopolised systems that are in place with Central Banks and Ben Benanke as the Supreme Priest of Interest rates.

Ever wondered why the British Pound is the highest currency?



Value of 1 British Pound
American Dollar 2.0022 USD
Australian Dollar 2.36638 AUD
Brazilian Real 3.85203 BRL
Canadian Dollar 2.12754 CAD
Chinese Yuan 15.2564 CNY
Danish Krone 11.0619 DKK
Euro 1.48685 EUR
Hong Kong Dollar 15.6502 HKD
Indian Rupee 81.6897 INR
Japanese Yen 246.29 JPY
Malaysian Ringgit 6.93762 MYR
Mexican Peso 21.5947 MXN
New Zealand Dollar 2.60262 NZD
Norwegian Kroner 11.81 NOK
Singapore Dollar 3.06997 SGD
South African Rand 14.1736 ZAR
South Korean Won 1855.24 KRW
Sri Lanka Rupee 222.945 LKR
Swedish Krona 13.7261 SEK
Swiss Franc 2.4599 CHF
Taiwan Dollar 65.7122 TWD
Thai Baht 63.3696 THB
Venezuelan Bolivar 4293.91 VEB

using values from Thursday, June 28, 2007
click on values to see historical trend



Dynamic Exchange Rates Table





This is the cause of the problems.

International White Supremacist Racist Activity.





The World Bank



And






IMF -- International Monetary Fund Home Page

Its not. The Maltese currency is stronger, not sure if they're part of the euro now but when I went there it was at least 1.5 to the £1. THere are other currencies that are stronger as well... the Nigerian currency was as strong as the pound at one point.

Have always wondered why its so stong anyway, guessing its their overseas intrests, got any info?

This is a more interesting question that it may seem at front. Trying to understand money and how it works is not easy. And furthermore when examined makes very litte sense.

The first question that led me down the baffling road of trying to understand money came from a question kids have... if people are poor, why not just print more money and dish it out? The answer isn't obvious lol

Also what do they base the value of money on? It's not gold stockpilles anymore so don't use that.

When you get into it "money" is surrounded by so much mumbo jumbo nonsense you realise it actually doesn't make sense but nobody wants to rock the status quo.

I'll try to find some articles on this

You are correct there are a few currencies that are higher for some reason these countries are permitted to do that.
Highest valued currency unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


About Maltese currency. It is British controlled inspite of appearances.
Maltese lira - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Some of you might be old enough to remember what happened to the BCCI.

Asians and Nigerians were hit bad.

As long as people classified as White are trusted more than non-white people with the wealth of non-white people it is obvious that White people will remain supreme regardless of all the talk.



Swiss Banking - Trust Worthy White people with your interest at heart, apparently.
Banking in Switzerland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

EXCELLENT POINT!

Being able to read was of so great value and importance that poor people and the enslaved were discouraged fom learning to read. Now it's OK for everyone to read and it is encouraged.


The reason literacy is no longer a threat is that almost everyone is financially illiterate. We are all ignorant of how money works and how it moves. Everything we see about money is what the White Supremacist Racists want us to see.


Many are deluded into thinking that money is power. This is promoted in all the media as if were the ultimate target and therefore the absolute focus.


Many people overlook this obvious point. If you have power you can print as much or as little money as you like and dictate the relative value of your money to all others.