I dont know how many of you guys have a YouTube account but the White Nationalists and BNP are swarming all over You tube with their message.

I think it's about time we started to answer them back. I started my own Youtube channel feel free to join me or maybe BN will start its own?

There are a lot of good speakers and potent advocates on this Forum...why not spread the message.

My link is YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

I have added some white nationalist vids to my faves so you guys can see examples of what they are putting out there.

I'd be interested to know what some of the senoir members or mods think about this idea.

Phil

Philreg

A very senior figure in the Jewish world of Security and Intelligence and a master in dealing with the extreme right in Europe once said to me, and its a lesson I took, the best response to particular incidents or foes..is a non response and if force to low key non public one..He was criticising what he perceived to be our people's responses to similar challenges or issues.

Question to you given black people's numerous priorities:

1. what makes you think these crackers who i have seen on You Tube and elsewhere are a priority or a pressing one

2.. What resources would it take to respond to these people?

3. What key measurable strategic objectives would be achieved by it in a superior manner than other courses of action?

Don't get me wrong understand the urge and nothing sweeter than taking it to the enemy but how important is it and to who?

@ Philgreg
My thoughts are much along the lines of FB who makes some pertinent points. Whilst I am not an advocate of 'passive resistance' I am an advocate of the ‘focussed and purposeful’ response. The what I see as a 'knee jerk' reaction of many black people wanting to 'get in the face' of crackers like the BNP mob who come with their predictable and quite expected, foul mouth 'message against black people, is, if anything.....energy sapping. Besides that it means that OUR agenda ends up being set by these mofos.

THEY determine OUR emotions and the ISSUES we apply our efforts to. THEY shout 'GET BLACK PEOPLE OUT' and we at once are supposed to jump up and down shouting what in response?.....'WHY WE BELONG HERE'.
Look, they are not doing any more than we (well me certainly) expect them to do, and let's face it, they express much the same attitude held (all be it deep down for some) in the hearts of most white people. So their 'receptive' audience is by and large a converted one.......and what exactly do we hope to do? Change white people's attitude by directing our energy to chasing and shovelling up the sh*t these mofos drop down?

Sure if a man come to your face looking to put his shit on you, don't turn no other cheek.....TAKE THAT MUTHER OUT!. But to go running down the road after him screaming and shouting so as to let him know loud and clear that what he is saying is 'Getting Under Your Skin'…is another matter entirely.

A valuable lesson an old martial arts teacher of mine taught me was "Don't fuss yourself with the antics of the little bwoy showing off his style and bragging about how bad he is in front of you. Let him flex if he wants to, but don’t allow him to make YOU flex just because you have an urge to put him in his place. Don’t let him tell you when YOU should jump. But if he steps up to you to shove his sh*t in your face (should he be more than mere mouth), THEN you SHOW him you are not to be messed with.
YOU determine WHEN to take action, WHAT action to take and for WHAT purpose to take it.

I am not saying that going on YouTube as you suggest serves no purpose, just that I am not sure exactly WHAT that purpose is.

Respect

Excellent replies there. It always illustrates to me just how little time I actually take when writing forum posts.

Yeah sure dont go replying to every crazy person out there.. Pat Condell example is one I bothered to reply to because after watching his "Islam" vid...I felt compelled to answer back. I am not religious but just felt the need to answer back as so many people who dont really know many muslims were quoting him as speaking the truth..they weren topenly racist...just thought he had the common touch.

Anyways, getting back to your points ...RESOURCES...well if you have a laptop and WEBCAM it can be done. I dont suggest we go out to antagonise anyone . Just talk some intelligent stuff for the general digestion of the masses.

The more intelligebt output we create...the better. It doesn't have to be a response to any existing vids. Just a black presence on You Tube.

the good it serves? well I'm not sure I can generalise, but It shows other black people out there that there is a conscious group of people making intelligent videos out there without waiting for large corporations to do it for us.

I can think of a few things that might be good to put up there. By RESPOND I just meant " what are we doing?"

Philreg which one of the two is your key priority having a general positive presence on the web or having one specifically to address the extreme right attention seekers and proselytisers..


They seem to be different things with differing merits and demerits..Still not sure if I was the leader or manager of this project that I would be totally convinced in terms of what specific outcomes could we expect, over how long against what inputs because these things have to be paid for whether with cash money or voluntary time which could be used elsewhere...But there may be a general case to be made if we are clear what specifically are you proposing.In blunt terms who are we going after

''We're not here to heal white people''

Forget who said it but its a quote from somewhere.

That's one thing you should NEVER do. That's why I will never register with Facebook or Myspace etc because putting a name to a face is inviting trouble you don't need. If there's one thing that pisses off racist or any other sabatour, is not knowing what their enemy is thinking or doing - they can't plan their next course of action.

In the grand scheme of things these low priority crackers are irrelevant and just not worth your precious time. Plus there are pro African supporters on Youtube.

like many people in this thread said. black people's agenda must be first to get power and strength, and that means devoting all our time to technological know how. we in this day and age have simply bigger fish to fry.

I'm with FB here. They're simply not a priority and if somehow these people are the priority for our organisations/leaders then these organisations/leaders are simply not focusing on anything real or progressive or even have real power.

fredblack, it's no accident that we are always fighting these nobodies and always in plain site on the biggest platforms.

I remember Don Imus had many Anti Semitic rants on people he worked for at CBS, how they Jews runs things etc etc the usual stuff that get people interested in how the media runs, usually you'll want to fire you for something like that and the 30+ million white audience knew it and waited, but nothing. The Jews that wanted to get ride of him sat in silence.

Only when the jokes about Africa America Female Basket Ball team came up the Jews made there move and set a black face on him and we where on the killing fields slugging it out and made to look like the real driving force to a people who generally believed he got fired for his nappy headed hoe joke, no one remembers his Anti Semitism or suspected a Jewish motive.

EDIT: If it wasn't going to be Al sharpton, it was going to be the millions of other black tools they have lined up to flex themselves.

Still interesting points...

I am a bit diapointed with the general tone though. If we are talking about technology digital video is totally the next bulletin board.

How do I know this? I work as a technologist. More and more in Education people are using digital video to illustrate their work.

I'm not getting a posse together here guys. Just suggestions that we use new technology to get the points out.

As for Facebook/myspace and anonymity, well register with a pen name or something.

The medium is there.....use It I say. 10 years ago, I'll bet people were saying the same thing about this forum and others like it..

Nowadays, I think that whlist forums are still useful communities, they can be made more interesting with video and podcasts.

when people talk about using our time better and there are higher priorities...what are these priorities and how are you serving them better by confining yourself to an internet forum as opposed to Youtube etc?

Just a thought...

My sentiments exactly. If we are to utilize YouTube, it should be in a self-determinated and proactive way of culturating our people with deeper levels of consciousness, not being reactive pizzing in the wind trying to prove a point to a group of people who will hate you anyway.

Phil you actually have germ of an idea..I think however like others it should be PROACTIVE..about us and not REACTIVE to white opinion...