Sad ways of thinking... - Page 2

DtotheJ · (#26 (**permalink**))

"Origin"..is it merely a coincidence that this happens to be your "first" post...but you've apparently been around long enough to gauge how "people here" are like?

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In any form of judgment , your priors come up.....prior crimes..or behavior.....I'm thinking that, just like PH said...there was a pattern.

Breadfruit · (#27 (**permalink**))

Origin has gone back to their origins (The Rich Caribbean no doubt). And if they return they will return to their "roots" again.

Posters are banned for Openly Anti-African posts on a site that will never tolerate it, yet make up new accounts so they can continue

Why don't they frequent forums that allow that - there are many and no one is forced to post here??

African people have soo few platforms where they can speak about their own issues, both locally and globally - why some negroes want to turn such forums into mainstream racist circuses of backwardness, when the mainstream has no problem with their presence is indicative of how mentally ill many of us have become through a lack of history and culture.

Bredder Tukoma · (#28 (**permalink**))

Our rich Carribbean exiled friend has a style that reminds me of someone previously on here. Either that or all these anti Africanists sound the same.

Mezmerized · (#29 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by EF MAX

Thanks for re-opening the thread.. my views here are developed from the fact that having just come back from doing some REAL voulntary work in a country which is desperate, I did find it offensive that the mods on this board took such a stance; as the thread was not offensive or trouble making.. it was just my view... which should have been open to public discussion, including the mods.. so again, thank you.

My original thoughts having spent 12 weeks in a place that was very deprived and working with people with such limited resources, just made me mad to see how much money is wasted killing people when money could be spent cleaning up politics, corrupt officials and feeding hungrey people.. being there makes you have a less complacent view of other's suffering (even if it was only for a short term visit)..

Lol...you've just proven my point about the kind of people who always come with the kind of nonesense you posted here. You are hardly the first person from the West who proclaims to know what Africans need after some very REAL VOLUNTARY (your words)work in Africa. It's so patheticaly PATRONISING it makes Bono's nonesense preaching seem like easy to swallow.

And what exactly is LIMITED resources? Does the whole world has to resemble London or New York for you charity whores to be happy? I might not have been born in a MRSA infected hospital with electricity, but i can ensure you that the environment was well ABOVE proper clean. So who are you to judge what is best for anyone?

for your information, Africa is not in famine because our land lacks food, only a fool with limited knowledge would conclude that MONEY from the West would somehow feed a whole CONTINENT. The same USA thats invaded Iraq is also SPONSORING wars and causing instabilities in many African states, hence making it hard for people to feel safe to cultivate their lands. Africa is the most fertile land there is on earth, thats why these mongrels who sponsored your so called CHARITABLE vonlutary work are simply exhasperating the problem with their nonesense approaches.

Nobody invited you in chains to go where you went, so save us the whole palava......plenty of places in Europe are not doing that great, did this institutition you went with told you about the dirt in their own back yards?

So please, save us the patronising i help the Africans line. We couldn't give a **** what you think, do you see Africans in the news wanting to save you Westerners from your madness of over indulgence, teenage pregnancies, peodophiles and cancer infected meats? No, so leave us be and next time just spend your precious hollyday times shagging in Ibiza!

EF MAX · (#30 (**permalink**))

Ok, I appreciate what has been said and why... at first I thought the post being closed down was because I had broken some rules and did not immediately read into the post hijacker or their attitude and negativity; nor had I any experience of their previous posts..

DtotheJ · (#31 (**permalink**))

Mez,
i've read equally prejudiced posts from you several times about places that I don't think you've ever visited....you could have been banned number of times for any of those rants...

Mezmerized · (#32 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by DtotheJ

Mez,
i've read equally prejudiced posts from you several times about places that I don't think you've ever visited....you could have been banned number of times for any of those rants...

Rants? Look, i know you don't think much of me, and neither do i of you. It seems if somoene's writing style is not to your liking, then its a rant....but either way, i don't give a damn.

I am not sure what you're trying to say here, because you think i have been prejuduced(thats your opinion by the way)in the past about places i've supposedly never visited then it somehow excludes me from telling these morons off for their profanities?

Oh and by the way, which places are these you are talking about? And please, don't say the US...lol...because even Arab youths in Gaza have got something to say about the US. You don't have to be in America to see how their murderous international policies are destroying communities around the world. Of course, you the beloved guardian of the US would come back and defend it to the grave, be my guest...its your own time wasted.

Oh and another thing, how do you know which places i've been to and what i know?

Quite frankly, if you don't answer my post, i would even appreciate it more.

DtotheJ · (#33 (**permalink**))

Mez.....you made a weird comment to me once that was actually not too different in tone from what blackchat was inferring about the continent.

You said that I only defended america because "coming here saved me and my family from starvation in Haiti" or something silly.....

"saved from starving"?.....from a person who claims to be proud African....laughable

In the "men....bleaching" thread...I found it ironic that a person who makes broad stereotypes about other Black people(like YOU) had the nerve to take offense when some other poster made broad stereotype of people from your region of the continent....

hey, prejudice is horrible but you never know how a person is raised, what kind of anger they walk round with or what their life experiences have been...but be consistent at least....Mez...

Mezmerized · (#34 (**permalink**))

Quote:

Originally Posted by DtotheJ

Mez.....you made a weird comment to me once that was actually not too different in tone from what blackchat was inferring about the continent.

You said that I only defended america because "coming here saved me and my family from starvation in Haiti" or something silly.....

"saved from starving"?.....from a person who claims to be proud African....laughable

Unless you can show it to me, then i do not believe i would have said it in the way you are interprenting it here.

In the "men....bleaching" thread...I found it ironic that a person who makes broad stereotypes about other Black people(like YOU) had the nerve to take offense when some other poster made broad stereotype of people from your region of the continent....

First off, if i critic what other Africans are doing to each other, i don't see that as me making a broad stereotype of anything. If we are discussing issues that affects us as a continent, i don't see why i should shut my mouth off when i know y z who is in the wrong. If Angola or Congo is in the wrong, i would say it. That to me is not stereotyping anyone. And i am still waiting for the connection with what you are saying here in regard to this thread.

Also, you've twisted what i said to Chi, how about i post what i said to her here so we see how i am making so called broad stereotypes about other people.

Since when is Congo in West Africa? Central Africa....

It is bad enough that you used the word "francophone", but your analysis is actually wrong, the bleaching is just evenly spread out through the continent. Although Congo does tend to stand out(mostly because they are everywhere and the stupid music is everywhere) just as many other African men do it, they just hide behind their pathetic excuses of (for example)i am an Igbo were are fair blahh blah excuses.

It is actually this so called "francophone" countries that are doing a lot to stop this bleaching madness....Senegal and the Gambia banned the sale of all bleaching creams, but are having a hard time stoping the influx of these products coming in from Nigeria and some from Congo.

Another thing, it's only in the west that Africans indentify light skinned men with feminity, back in the continent, ladies looooveee their light skinned men, and since i've been here, so do Continetal Carribens(thats what i've noticed anyways)
Its no wonder the poor(sic)men are bleaching, reducing themselves to look like Moroccan monkeys!

hey, prejudice is horrible but you never know how a person is raised, what kind of anger they walk round with or what their life experiences have been...but be consistent at least....Mez...

As i said, you don't like me, neither do i like you. There is no need to go around fishing for things that are not there to prove your point or to try to prove your inacurate point that i am not consistent. Perhaps it is because i don't budge thats why you can't stand me. I am of the new generation of young Africans who do not see the colonial borders. I will not keep my mouth shut if one African state is doing wrong just so i can appear like i only mind my "business". Angola is just as important to me as Congo is, so they is ****ing up, i will say it, you don't like it, tough. But don't twist it into something that it's not.

Again, i would appreciate it if you could bring up the thread in question where i called you a starving Hatian, otherwise i cannot defend myself against something that you could have twisted your own way to make a point with me.

astmartins · (#35 (**permalink**))

Maybe Africans can cure their own problems. And stop living in the stone age!

Never thought of you as so ignorant and presumptious you probably have never been to Africa so you think Africa is all bush?? what if it were at least the world needs all that forage...find you comments very condenscending and you need to open a book on how the world economy works??...if Africa was competiting on the same level as the West do you think you would have this privilged position of yours..some parts of Africa even have thriving Stocks and Shares market you shock me!!..
Obviously some African upset you on the way to work and i like how you talk about Africa in the third person so who or what are you ???...just as I thought people like you represent that brand of whatever you are to Africa that are too lazy to read and research and sit with a packet of crisps in front of the telly listening to the junk on BBC...keep believing that crap and enjoying your humble meaningless existence...
It never happened to you you that the resource rich parts of the Africa are the most ravaged and unsettled this places would have been the catalyst for the economic prosperity of Africa...duh!!
What is sad is that the average YT person is now aware of this thanks to the information age but our people just love to have little meaningless digs at each other without cpntributing anything postive to any form of progress either here or out there....
Back to the subject matter i tell you with the amount of debt in the USA they need that money..African states and not 'Africa' its a continent damnit would be okay once everyone keep their oars out of their business period!!
Didn't know that person was 'knocked off' before i started writing well i still stand firm by my words..must have been an imposter he or she cleverly disguises him or herself remember once made some derogatory personal comments about @fredblack regarding African Male Celebs in mixed relationships..
At most a feeble attempt to set off the African Caribbean and DIrect African descendants rancour but we are getting past that now

Kunjufu · (#36 (**permalink**))

I think the central point for me is that you cannot seriously expect to get a proper perspective of Africa from the TV or a book.. its one of those places you really need to visit and visit not as a tourist but as a visitor.... Anyone who has gone to Africa, understands that the issue is NOT the people.. given a level playing field they would pound for pound wipe the floor with us...no question.. the ingenuity that i witnessed was outstanding.. and as many have already said if peopl like Blackchat actually went to Africa they would be surprised, very surprised...

It has been stated time and time again, that there not a person in that country who has VOTED for a dictator..or to be oppressed.. the idea that the masses either accept or want poverty is as many have said patronizing.. So i really wish some people would engage their brain before coming out with crap..

Mezmerized · (#37 (**permalink**))

I am wondering why you would choose this thread to bring this on, why didn't you bring it in the bleaching thread? Hmmmm, is it because you simply can't stand it when Africa is defended? Because from what you've litered around, it seems you get an alergic reaction everytime we are not wasting our time blaming Africa for all sorts. Just so you don't think i am talking nonesense, check your contribution in Why Were So Easly Subdued by Europeans(Shemsi's thread)

Enjoy...

astmartins · (#38 (**permalink**))

Respect @k for that insight I hope @incognito makes that trip too(if he hasn't) cos he feels it in his heart.... it makes you wonder why do Britsh born continental africans go back home en-masse every holiday?? if it were all bush and mud houses..no ones disputing that there are bad leaders and poverty but it takes time to bring things round culturally and economically if it were that easy African people wouldn't be the most deprived from Brazil-US to the UK its no concidence we all trying to gain our emancipation from thousands of years of cultural depravity and pillage by others.
I keep telling my friends that its a testament to our strength that despite all the wars in Africa people can still thrive(see @DSPs pice from Liberia) they haven't given up it really humbles me whenever i go back there and some of us here we just don't appreciate nothing!! some would rather wallow in their bitterness and perpetuate that divide and rule nonsense so please leave us alone and let those who believe we are one people one colour of many interesting shades get on with the business