Femergy - admirable, not to pry or anything but this 50%, did you have a choice not to give i.e. was it a legal entitlement hubby had anyway?

One case I know of when the ex hubby went to see the ex wife about the house he's been paying for while having to rough it, she looked at him and said she thought that had all been settled.

Me, if I believed the children were the number one priority to the mother, I'd leave her everything. I'd go as far to say it's one of the main reasons why she hung around so long because she knows I'm not in it for the money and my pride would sooner have me walk and leave it. Even now the house belongs to the boys, protecting it from the mothers claws. As it turned out I'm so glad I actually got her financially involved where she spent some money because it was never her intention to do so. It's why she sees money I spent as child maintenance and money she spent as investments, it's the mans job to finance her kids you see to the degree it was probably her legal entitlement that made her get involved. She had the marriage licence, a newly decorated house fit for a queen and a two year old boy, the envy of many red eyes outa a road and instead of making some chicken soup the only thing she was fretting on was the little money she spent.

The joke about mine was it was she who was begging me to get married. I'll be honest and say my values had me in between a rock and a hard place because I knew I wanted my children born in wedlock but there was no way I was asking her to marry me at that time, she just wasn't ready. So I deliberated it a bit and decided I'll go ahead but will hold off from the ring and the ceremony until the baby is born and we settle in together. In time I'll find out what it is she was begging me to marry her so badly for....it was my kind of halfway house knowing the significance of the union should still stand but which in many ways meant I didn't consider myself as ever being married by my complete definition but more legally tied. We had looked at several properties together by that time, all which I turned down, I'm guessing that might of had something to do with it in that if i turned down those imagine what she's going to get lol.

Don't get me wrong, when my son was born on my birthday she was the best thing that ever happened to me but no surprise even that simply turned out as something to try and use against me.

I could also tell you the other side of how she done it because she loved me but hey, if you don't love Africa you can't love me, in my world it means you will never appreciate what the word means and the significance of marriage and children....if it's just that romantic walt disney bull you're coming with you'll be very disappointed and if I need to spell that out to you after 7-10 years it means you'll never be wife material. I'm not heartless but when people can't admit they need to learn because they're independent and furthermore don'thave to learn because they believe they have you legally and have your children, you can't help them.

It's Adam and Eve business, Heather Mills and co are a fact of life, a wise man will assume this to be the rule while seeking the exception. In the analogy that you can't make an omlette without cracking a few eggs then the search for the alpha and omega civilisation will cost you a few children along the way. Indeed it took this for my new wife to be my new wife, she believes in the higher force but not in any lobotomised Christian sense, as long as that is at the core we can work anything out.

@incognito

Did the major tabloids recently publish information, stating that Heather Mills had a been involved in prostitution?

I have no pity for Paul McCartney, he is an older man, well established and very rich. He is obviously deluded and egotistical, as he allowed himself to believe that a woman, who just happened to be half his age, would be interested in him as an individual and not his extreme wealth.

Ok, lets change the situation, but only slightly. Can you actually imagine Heather Mills showing such concern and regard to a standard pensioner, possibly living in a two bedroom end terrace in Liverpool. Surviving on a state pension, doesn't own a car, as they are too expensive, but does need one as he has waited 3 years for a hip replacement on the NHS!!

It is what it is, he received so called love and affection, and she received money. I'm unsure why anyone could be suprised at the outcome.

Dee1ite - put it this way, even a handicapped male can buy a female prostitute for sexual stimulation and relief, a handicapped female might not have such luck renting a man, there are some lines even a gigolo wouldn't cross but ""women"" and money is a different kettle of fish.

Anyone who spent two years sleeping with that dried up fossil deserves more than 24 million suggests it was him doing all the chasing, as if she had no choice, like myself, I didn't drag anybody kicking and screaming down the aisle, their decision reflects their agenda, you might have to divorce them to find out what that agenda is

Hmm...then again, I'll rephrase that, even a male mental retard can buy a female prostitute for sexual relief and stimulation......
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Paul deserved to get let off lightly, putting a false leg over his shoulder at his age couldn't have been easy

Do the math:

She lost money being with him.
He gained money being with her.
Without her he would have gone to the dogs.
Without him she would have been an even higher roller.
She gave up her independent lucrative future to have his children.
Yet they are her children which he has access to if he pays maintenance.

all this equals Money Monkey - and these people think they are intelligent...indeed so intelligent they can even defend themselves in court.

After running her mouth, saying stuff like, Paul wants their daughter 2 ride economy/2nd class while he ride 1st class, she had the audacity to say that stuff....now see what's up!! Heather rode 1st class, then put her child on economy on ANOTHER PLANE.
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HIGH-LIVING Heather Mills was exposed as a hypocrite last night — for failing to buy first-class flights for daughter Beatrice.

Mucca slammed ex Sir Paul McCartney on Monday for forcing the four-year-old to travel “B Class” after their bitter divorce — while he flew “A Class”.

She haughtily vowed to pay for Beatrice’s first-class travel herself.


But details obtained by The Sun show the one-legged gold-digger has ALREADY failed to live up to her pledge.

Heather, dubbed ****occhio after her divorce judge branded her a scheming liar, jets to New York this weekend to rest after her court war with ex-Beatle Paul, 65.

But she is sending Bea home early with a minder and nanny in the £409 seats at the back of a Virgin jet.

Mucca, 40, will fly to LA the same day for a further three weeks before jetting home alone — in a £3,348 Virgin Upper Class berth.

REST OF NEWS:
Heather Mills | Hypocrite | Daughter Beatrice | No first class plane ticket | The Sun |HomePage|News

It seems such a sad state for the child and is one thing I still can't wrap my head around having these poor innocent children being bounced from pillar to post between waring parents, it's pure nastiness, children need stability. I can't imagine my children especially the three year old where one minute he's here the next he's there one parent takes them out one week and the other somewhere else the next. Even worse if the tqo parents have started new relationships and even families where the first children are now piggies in the middle, seeing everybody settled apart from themselves. Wotliss, make the youths sit down one place, home.

You had to mention the leg

I agree that some men can buy a female, for the above reasons stated. That does not equate to marriage and children. Do you believe he married her without knowing about her back ground?

Dee1ite - at his age I'd say her background wouldn't have mattered - if he knew or not and if you're head over heels and in deep enough the human mind is excellent at playing tricks on you, it'll find any excuse to justify your desires and worse case it'll go as far as saying those past experiences are what have made her the woman he loves today. I tell my new wife all the time, for me she defines the new standard of womanhood, if I liked slim girls before her and she was fat, being fat is now the new slim, that's how it works for us men - I praise jah this experience didn't happen with a grey but can easily recognise that it must have been the case for many others i.e. there are black people where white partners now define the new standard and vice versa.

At the same time you live and you learn and the key is to remain conscious of the fact that whatever feelings and emotions are driving it's all part of the experience and not necessarily the pinnacle of llife, or if it is, it's simply the pinnacle for that time, there's more twists and turns to come. Again me and new wifey regularly joke about imagining after living together for a while the experience leaves me running back to the old wife begging her to take me back

My ex wife had no background so her past was nothing to worry about, I suppose only from an upbringing perspective maybe but you believe all people grow and more importantly where relationships are concerned people grow together. As I already mentioned it was my ex begging me to get married so when I found out I was simply a sperm donor with a bank account for an independent woman, the primary reason for filing for divorce was to prove this wasn't the case where the relationship might be rekindled afterwards if the case was proven.

You don't beg a man to marry you to run competition on him in the yard talking bull about who run tings, she simply proved her marriage was for no other reason than to protect her independence which was reinforced further by her denying she begged anyone to marry her. Talking about how I just want to see her beg, didn't stop her begging for marriage though did it, what's different now? And worse on top of that selling out to people who are jealous of me and punks who would have told her to dash her gut...and them joining in using the opportunity to settle their own scores like they know anything about her. They all sold out my boys. I suppose the new wife turning up when she did didn't help either. Believe I see many similarities with mine and Paul's but then I guess most people from 'failed' marriages/relationships would.

Point being past or no past, it's where the mind is at at the particular moment in time that can make two people click or not. I remember one woman who used to post here years ago talking how she sucks her mans dick and they do not speak about each others past in a what you don't know can't hurt you kind of way, right now she's one of Ligali's right hand people, the last time I swapped words with her on the Ligali forum she was telling me how her eyes are becoming open to the righteousness of marriage something she would not have considered before. Well likewise Paul McCartney's eyes have opened in the same way but in the other direction - i.e. Heather aint no Linda and besides, the one leg alone should tell anyone if that doesn't bother him not much else will

Listen to Barbara Streisand's 'Love comes from the most unexpected places' or better still the version by Hortense Ellis.....take all the love that you can find i.e. the past doesn't come into it, but always balance this with Elvis Presley's Devil in disguise, it's all written down

Femergy - a fine sista friend of mine divorced from her hubby a few years ago, she parted cleanly telling him it was never about the money for her, he took what he could, he's heavily into the church thing...so yeah, you're not 'all' that bad

Men:

Learn a lesson from Paul......even one legged women can be gold diggers, get an atty, get a prenup.....

Safetyb - too right, hustlers looking for someone to finance their kids then run off with some punk who tells them what they want to hear....eat under the two foot table as well. You see how Mel B is spending Eddie Murphy's maintenance money on her new punk. Hustlers