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Default King Kong Stereotypes Again - 26-03-08, 02:16 PM

When the magazine first came out it was the first thought in my mind...







NEW YORK (AP) - When Vogue announced its April cover starring LeBron James and Gisele Bundchen, the magazine noted with some fanfare that James was the first black man to grace its Cover

But the image is stirring up controversy, with some commentators decrying the photo as perpetuating racial stereotypes. James strikes what some see as a gorilla-like pose, baring his teeth, with one hand dribbling a ball and the other around Bundchen's tiny waist.


It's an image some have likened to "King Kong" and Fay Wray.
"It conjures up this idea of a dangerous black man," said Tamara Walker, 29, of Philadelphia. Photographer Annie Leibovitz shot the 6-foot-9 NBA star and the 5-foot-11 Brazilian model for the cover and an inside spread. Vogue spokesman Patrick O'Connell said the magazine "sought to celebrate two superstars at the top of their game" for the magazine's annual issue devoted to size and shape.
"We think LeBron James and Gisele Bundchen look beautiful together and we are honored to have them on the cover," he said.
James told The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer he was pleased with the cover, saying he was "just showing a little emotion."


"Everything my name is on is going to be criticized in a good way or bad way," James told the paper. "Who cares what anyone says?"
But magazine analyst Samir Husni believes the photo was deliberately provocative, adding that it "screams King Kong." Considering Vogue's influential history, he said, covers are not something that the magazine does in a rush.
"So when you have a cover that reminds people of King Kong and brings those stereotypes to the front, black man wanting white woman, it's not innocent," he said.
O'Connell, the Vogue spokesman, declined further comment.
In a column at ESPN.com, Jemele Hill called the cover "memorable for all the wrong reasons." But she said in an interview that the image is not unusual — white athletes are generally portrayed smiling or laughing, while black sports figures are given a "beastly sort of vibe."


For example, former NBA star Charles Barkley was depicted breaking free of neck and wrist shackles on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Dennis Rodman graced the cover of Rolling Stone with horns poking out of his forehead and his red tongue hanging out.
Images of black male athletes as aggressive and threatening "reinforce the criminalization of black men," said Damion Thomas, assistant professor in the Department of Kinesiology at University of Maryland.
But others say the image show James' game face — nothing more. And they note that Bundchen hardly looks frightened.


"James is a huge, black beautiful masculine statue and Gisele is a feminine, sexy gorgeous doll," said Christa Thomas, 36, a black account supervisor in Los Angeles.


"I didn't see any kind of racist overtone to it," she said. "I still don't. I think there is such a hypersensitivity to race still in this country."
Husni said it is too soon to know how the magazine is selling, though the controversy could increase sales as people rush out to get a "collector's edition."
If nothing else, Walker said the cover underscores the need for a more diverse workplace.


"If more people of color worked for Vogue in positions of editorial authority, perhaps someone in the room might have been able to read the image the way so many of us are reading it now, and had the power to do something about it," she said.



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Rotflmao!!



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We get confounded trying to get back to Africa. On my first trip to Africa, they asked, "Where's your passport?" I said "I have no passport...I was taken away 500 years ago; and now I'm back."

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Yuck. He's hideous. What the hell is he doing on the cover with her anyway?

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Default 26-03-08, 05:47 PM

I shouldn't laugh but I think its blatant. They even got the colour of her dress right. She's standing on the left side and it looks he's ready to roar!! He's been suckered into doing this.

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LOL oh boy.......

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Yuck. He's hideous. What the hell is he doing on the cover with her anyway?
I thought (all) women love that type of man? Big and strong Lol.

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It was Beauty who killed the beast!! LOL.



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Default 26-03-08, 10:15 PM

It doesn't surprise me, there are plenty of Black men who are not at all bothered by that image of themselves and are clueless about the implications of it(big dicked beast/uber masculine/ultra male), until it cramps their style in some way, the cops beat the sh*t out of them for little or nothing even though it's 14 cops and 1 Black man, cause the cops FEARED the dude was gonna go all King Kong on them, like the Rodney King case. WHats more telling is you had a group of white jurors who looked at that King beating video and thought it was reasonable for the cops to react that way. The 14 cops were in danger, (in their minds) eventhough they had night sticks/guns/, etc, not the lone Black man. If they like it, I love it.



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Default 27-03-08, 09:00 AM

woooow. You can definitely see it in Shemsi's post.
oh wow, even her feet are in the exact position (mirror image) and Kong's right arm is in the same position. Yeah, Vogue did it on purpose.

But either way you get a white woman and a black man on the cover and it's going to be controversial. Let them be hugging with a big smile and people will be screaming interracial love lol.

But I agree. Bad move on Vogue's part morally, decent move marketing-wise as most of their readers are white upper and wannabee uppercrust women who now get to see their fantasy being displayed on supermarket checkout shelves. I believe they call it "selling your soul to the devil"

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Default 27-03-08, 02:53 PM

i don't see the problem really.

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Default 27-03-08, 03:32 PM

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i don't see the problem really.

You got to be kidding, right?



We get confounded trying to get back to Africa. On my first trip to Africa, they asked, "Where's your passport?" I said "I have no passport...I was taken away 500 years ago; and now I'm back."

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You got to be kidding, right?
nope. hi xxeler. i love your girls hair and she's gorgeous as well.

but no i'm not kidding. it's nothing we've never seen before and it will be what you make it. no one's looking at the black man differently b/c of this. they will continue to look at you all....the same way they've been.

i understand not wanting to feed the monster but hungry people will find food...here or there.

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nope. hi xxeler. i love your girls hair and she's gorgeous as well.

but no i'm not kidding. it's nothing we've never seen before and it will be what you make it. no one's looking at the black man differently b/c of this. they will continue to look at you all....the same way they've been.

i understand not wanting to feed the monster but hungry people will find food...here or there.

It isn't about looking at the African man any differently, because he is apparently viewed as subhuman by Western/Indo-European culture to be constantly portrayed as an over grown primate or ape in the first place. Images are powerful, and go along way in maintaining the power structure of the White Supremacist society we live in.

I'm not saying for us to start marching and demonstrating, but we need to modify both our behavior and actions in a proactive way to neutralize and/or destroy the effects this White Supremacist culture has on our people.



We get confounded trying to get back to Africa. On my first trip to Africa, they asked, "Where's your passport?" I said "I have no passport...I was taken away 500 years ago; and now I'm back."

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