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Was this man 'insane' or just very angry? was this a really 'a moment of insanity' as the court hearing ruled; or was it just 'bad mind' after this man's wife told him she intended to leave him & take the children?
Any BNV men willing to share their experiences of how they deal with their own anger in their relationships?

The court is NUTS. That was manslaughter.

The woman was pretty ridiculous for doing that when the children were around though. There is no telling how some idiots would react to that although I consier that extreme.

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The man clearly got sold out but the babymother but agreed, this was manslaughter and he should have been convicted and jailed accordingly - the relationship must have been going pear shaped for a while for him to put things into perspective - taking the children's life can not be excused.

haven't really read the full story so don't want to judge by the incident alone but likewise with the mother, she would have known certain things as well so should have made sure the children were out of reach when exposing certain intentions....still if the children were being used as scapegoats that might explain a few things.

N.B - anger? I can be short fused but believe it or not I'm quite immune to personal anger, I'm built from sturdy stuff where consciousness and spirituality plays an integral part. Any perceived anger comes from seeing the children suffer, as I told the babymother, what are you trying to prove, get the children away from this, what is it all in aid of, money?

Brothas, naturally you can't be eating dinner cooked by the person you're trying to divorce, you don't know what she might put in it

I cant believe you guys feel this woman had any responsibility. Most men often lose their temper; but how was she to know what he was capable of doing that??

they were on holiday in Greece - not easy to remove the children from the environment; and why is it the wife is not allowed to loose her temper too? I agree if one person is loosing it then it is better for the other to be calm & controlled - but sometimes you have to say things that need to be said - even if you regret it after. But even if this man did have a history of mental illness in his family; there was no way she could have predicted that he would throw his own children over a balcony. Im sure if she did think he was capable of that she would have protected her children.

mmm.... Igcognito - I wonder if your ex-wife would agree with you there?

N.B - I doubt their troubles started in Greece

Incognito - I am fully aware their marital problems did not start in Greece; I believe they went there on holiday to try & 'make up'. what is your point?? Its easy to say in hindsight - she should have removed the children from that situation.

My point is she would have known the volatility of the situation and could have taken appropriate action. Not saying this is gospel any more than you can say it isn't - stop defending it from a womans lib perspective and you will see the point. If they went there to make up then that's even more evidence of the climate of the situation.

...or let me put it another way, now that he has been 'proven' not guilty due to his mental state, add to that that he has survived a suicide bid and has to face the reality of what he has done, would you now trust him with the children?

Again going by my experience, the conditions the ex wife used to sell to people describing the fear she was allegedly living in, nobody could understand why she insisted in staying in it for so long

Don't ramp with a woman and her lies, even more so when they take for granted the system is biased in their favour. Quite embarrassing really, when the crunch came there was no substance at all, only defending face and money, and willing to scapegoat the children to disguise it.

This in no way excuses this man and his actions, I'm a firm defender of principles...and have done things in the name of them (which from the outside looking in may well be perceived as anger), but taking my children's life and committing/attempting suicide is not one of them.

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I cant believe you guys feel this woman had any responsibility. Most men often lose their temper; but how was she to know what he was capable of doing that??

It amazes me how often women seem to behave as though they understand and can manipulate men and then do something that dumb. Plus this was a White man. There is a significant difference in the psychological conditioning that goes on with boys in Black and White households at least in the US. Don't assume the same range and probabilities of behavior just on being MALE.

It should be obvious that that sould have been handled in a one on one situation maybe even in a relatively public place with multiple escape routes. A lot of women are attracted to Macho Morons then can't comprhend what they can do when they go into Macho Moron Mode.

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Sorry but what are you talking about? What did this woman do that was so dumb? I understand that as you are in the states you may not be familiar with this story - the man gave no warning: they were arguing; she turned her back; & the next thing she knew he had thrown the children out of the window. how can you blame her for that?
You blame her for being attracted to that kind of personality? how many of you guys disguise your inner personality even within a marriage?? I believe everyone has a nasty side - both man & woman.

If you are saying no black man would be capable of doing that - I would possible agree with that as I have never met one; but I was trying to widen the topic as to how men /black men handle their anger in relationships because even though they may not throw their kids out the window; Im sure other things take place....

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Sorry but what are you talking about? What did this woman do that was so dumb?

According to what was said above she told him she was leaving and taking the kids. I would not assume I would know how someone would reacct to something that extreme so I would take precautions against the worst.

Well she got it.

DUMB!

Maybe she was lucky he didn't kill her. That is why I said a public place with multiple exits. How well do people know themselves? How often have people done things they wouldn't expect under unusual situations?

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Umbra - growing up a bod took an overdose as a self-sympathy pill to win over this girl - another friend had no pity for him whatsoever saying as a man what are you popping pills for, if anything you push the pills down the womans throat