Afr/Am teens gang rape Hatian immigrant and her son, Sharpton/NAACP back teens

impactplayer · (#1 (**permalink**))

Id very much like to know your opinions on this story...Do you back the victim or the suspects?

There is a ground swell of anger against Reverend Al Sharpton and the Florida chapter of the NAACP over their apparent support of a gang of black teenagers charged with holding and assaulting a 35-year-old Haitian mother and her 12 year old son at gunpoint inside their home at the Dunbar Village housing project in West Palm Beach, Florida. The four black teens are accused of committing heinous crimes. They are charged with beating, raping and sodomizing the victim then making her abuse her own son. Before fleeing, the suspects also reportedly poured chemicals into the boy's eyes and tried to set both victims on fire.

Three weeks ago Rev. Al Sharpton and local representatives of the NAACP held a press conference to throw their support behind the suspects. They told the press that they are upset over the treatment of the black suspects versus the handling of the case of five white teens charged with attacking two white girls after a night of drinking. While the white suspects were given bail, the black teens are being held without bond.

Dozens of blogs have now turned their attention to Sharpton and the NAACP's choice to champion the rights of these youths. Many, including, the Color of Change, are criticizing them from getting behind this case rather than attacking black on black violence or the rights of victims. Sharpton has said the crime is despicable but that should not negate the equal protection rights of these teens under the law. Still, there is an upsurge in victim advocates and civil rights advocates who believe supporting these boys is reckless.

impactplayer · (#2 (**permalink**))

Gmahogany777 · (#3 (**permalink**))

I have to read more about this, but just from what I've heard, I take issue with backing the suspects. So what they are being held with out bond? It smacks of something that's bothered me for many years about some BLack men(and not just Sharpton), and that is that they only get their noses out of joint if a white man sexually violates or otherwise abuses a Black woman. If a Black man does it, or several Black men do it, all of sudden they start stutter stepping, making excuses and alibiing, or flat out blaming the victim. BLack folks in general are too lackadaisical about Black on Black crime, for my taste.

Having said that though, Sharpton usually has sound and reasonable explanations for the stances he takes, I've never known him not to, so I'll reserve further comment til I hear more from him.

ac9311 · (#4 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Gmahogany777

BLack folks in general are too lackadaisical about Black on Black crime, for my taste.

I totally agree. I cannot for the life of me understand why we always want to point to other people when they commit a crime, but give our predators a pass.

I can't support Al on this one no matter what his reasoning is. These boys acted like wild rabid animals. They don't deserve probation, they need to rot in jail for this.

impactplayer · (#5 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Gmahogany777

I have to read more about this, but just from what I've heard, I take issue with backing the suspects. So what they are being held with out bond? It smacks of something that's bothered me for many years about some BLack men(and not just Sharpton), and that is that they only get their noses out of joint if a white man sexually violates or otherwise abuses a Black woman. If a Black man does it, or several Black men do it, all of sudden they start stutter stepping, making excuses and alibiing, or flat out blaming the victim. BLack folks in general are too lackadaisical about Black on Black crime, for my taste.

Having said that though, Sharpton usually has sound and reasonable explanations for the stances he takes, I've never known him not to, so I'll reserve further comment til I hear more from him.

Im confused on why sharpton inserts himself in what are obvious controversial situations..Even the Jena 6 thing was controveral to a degree.. sure they hung a noose and all that but the black teens also whipped that white boys ass and you'd have to be stupid not to realize the media wasnt going to loop photos of the white boy with bruises on his face thereby getting whites all riled up..Anyway if the allegations are true Id have to take ac9311's position..

Prince Hakeem · (#6 (**permalink**))

WTF.....is this even real?!

Someone tell me this is a joke. Please.

markey · (#7 (**permalink**))

Man i'v never heard of this incident its pitiful what happened to the mother and her son ,those punks deserve everything they get .Could,nt care less about Al Sharpton ,his motives are all wrong in my opinion ,he seems more about being in the media spotlight more than anything else.

DtotheJ · (#8 (**permalink**))

even among criminals....in jail...there is pecking order...

rapists are at bottom of the barrel.......

there are (unfortunately) tons of Haitian teens and men locked up in the Miami area....and they aren't the well mannered church reared Haitians either....nah....

the suspects will be ................................

I don't even have to write it.

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Sharpton is usually on point........he backed Abner Louima when the cops sexually abused and tortured him in New York....and several minor cases when Haitians were the victims of cops or other Black attackers

I gotta dig further.....regardless of what I find I'm gonna follow this case and if I disagree with Rev. Al's stance......I'll send the NAN a letter.

This is hard to read......

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#9 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by DtotheJ

even among criminals....in jail...there is pecking order...

rapists are at bottom of the barrel.......

there are (unfortunately) tons of Haitian teens and men locked up in the Miami area....and they aren't the well mannered church reared Haitians either....nah....

the suspects will be ................................

I don't even have to write it.

You are so right....many Haitians here in Florida, especially the further south you go towards Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, and such. I hate to say it but those boys will get what they deserve once incarcerated, for sure by the resident Haitians in there.

I must say that we need to take a firm (almost harsh) stance in general against people who commit egregious crimes against the Africano community no matter what nationality. That is especially something like this filled with extreme hate. Just like the psychodynamics of all other "Black on Black" violence, it is rooted in self-hatred. We need to start sending a message that if you really hate your own kind that much, then go kill yourself...or we'll do it for you.

DtotheJ · (#10 (**permalink**))

OK...I found what I was looking for...one of the suspects had dna found in condom from the crime scene ......according to 2 separate news articles about the story.

Story happened last June...and only 2 of the suspects had been caught at the time.

These animals did it. The found one definite suspect and then connected the dots.

I thought Al was barking up the tree of these boys are innocent as the central park jogger attack suspects ended up being....that they were scared and signed confessions,etc,etc

F these animals....... and Sharpton should not be doing what I think he's doing. By using case where the victims and suspects are both Black.....he's trying to change his public image among whites from "only caring when it's a Black/white" issue.

My anger is squarely on these savages who committed those acts.....and I'm gonna let Al know that THIS isn't the case to be using for political gain.

There are some subhuman demons out there doing foul shiit.......execute them

Gmahogany777 · (#11 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by impactplayer

Im confused on why sharpton inserts himself in what are obvious controversial situations..Even the Jena 6 thing was controveral to a degree.. sure they hung a noose and all that but the black teens also whipped that white boys ass and you'd have to be stupid not to realize the media wasnt going to loop photos of the white boy with bruises on his face thereby getting whites all riled up..Anyway if the allegations are true Id have to take ac9311's position..

That's just it, most of the time he doesn't insert himself. Dollars to doughnuts the family members of the perpetrators called HIM. It's funny to me that people always think Sharpton inserts himself for the media spotlight. Sharpton made a name for himself by GENERATING media spotlight and focus on cases where there WAS NO MEDIA SPOTLIGHT(by raising hell and "rable rousing"),, white media was typically IGNORING/sweeping these kinds of incidents under the rug: some police beating,police homicide of an innocent person, or racial killings of a Black person by some group of white teens, or saying they INVESTIGATED when they really didn't.

Ask any of the families back in the day, of Yusuf Hawkins, the Howard Beach and Bensonhurst killings,in NY. He even intervened on a case that happened in the DC area with 2 Ghanaian brothers(last name Habib) that were pulled over by the cops one night, and one was killed for no reason. There was no media spotlight on that UNTIL he got involved and even then it never went beyond the DC/NY corridor, and he got involved because the Ghanaian dude's family ASKED him to, cause they were getting the run around from the police department's internal affairs people. That's why he pissed white folks off so much. THey would do dirt, and not pursue anything approximating justice, when the families trusted them to and left it in their hands, so then when the families go get a 'rabble rouser" like Sharpton involved, Crackers want to bitch and whine, but guess what? They at least start PRETENDING to pursue justice, cause now the spotlight is on them. That is as it should be.

Sharpton sees himself as turning the lights on ROACHES,lol. We need folks like that. Anyone who has experience with roaches(not that I do), knows that they do all manner of things as long as the lights are off, but hit that lightswitch and it's a differnent story,lol.

There was a case a couple of years back down near where my parents are from in Pensacola,FL, of police brutality where the local NAACP called Sharpton in because they didn't like the way things were going with the investigation. Unless you live in that area or know folks that live there, you wouldn't even know about that incident,no media cameras outside of local ones, but Sharpton was there. He shows up to PLENTY of ish, that doesn't matter to anyone, except the victim and their family. Nahhh man, give him his props. If he's wrong on something, he's wrong on it and i'll be the first to say it, but to try to paint him like he chases the spotlight is revisionist history. The truth of the matter is, he was the only person who could be depended on back in the day, and now to a large degree to CREATE a spotlight when mofos are trying to cover up dirt. That's why people who get their ass whipped by the police, or have a family member killed by the police,or some random group of white citizens, see their children getting railroaded by the justice system(Jena 6 parents, ask THEM if he inserted himself or not), and start to figure out that nothing is going to be done about it, seek him out.

As DtotheJ said, dude has been on the right side of this kind of thing more often than not, even when it is Black on Black, so I don't know what gives on this one