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Immigrants, The Inconvinient Truth - Channel 4 -
08-04-08, 12:09 PM
Anyone watch this?
Channel 4 - News - Dispatches - Immigrants: The Inconvenient Truth
Tired of these biased programs, would have thought the BBC's ''White season'' would have catered to all this nonsense but it doesn't look like it has. Guess it is an issue for the English as the E.U gradually pieces itself together but its always biased, ignorant English people complaining about immigrants who don't fit in seemingly forgetting that first off, of all the european peoples the english are the least likely to speak a second language whereas many of their cousins speak english as well as their native tongue... secondly english communities are found all over places like Spain where you can find english named pubs offering english breakfasts and oh yeah, South Africa where they have no intention of fitting in what so ever and make no bones about it.
If you want me out of your country you're going to have to get out of mine first, politics and all.
Its ridiculous to assume that people are sitting in england with their feet up with no intention or thought of going back to their homes... would want for nothing more than to be able to save my money and move to the Carribean... to watch crusty ass english women take advantage of poor people turning the place into some debauched party island like Aiya Nappa and Spain, not to mention other places where the self proclaimed model for humanity (the english and co) fit in oh so well.
Bstards.
Black Lion is... Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.
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08-04-08, 02:27 PM
"A serial killer or child molester or drug addict don't exactly stop being what they are between crimes. They just ain't doing their thing at particular moments. Clearly, to understand or treat such serious problems our focus must be enlarged far beyond moments of dramatic explosion to identify patterns, anticipate eruptions, seek root causes and means of prevention.
Yet we address white prejudice and violence directed at black people as a series of unfortunate instances, deviancy from an enlightened norm."
John Edgar Wideman
Fatheralong
Which other immigrant people, on Planet Earth, have destroyed peoples and cultures so violently and with no respect for indigenous people, during the last 5 centuries, more than Europeans???
Lets begin to list where they have made "home", where they have completely destroyed people and/or cultures ( ways of life ).
- United States
- Canada
- Jamaica
- Haiti
- Brazil
- Peru
- Australia
- South Africa
- Zimbabwe
How far would this list continue??
How much damage have European immigrants done to other peoples in their lands - without invitation and hope of apology??
It's the one who controls the discussion, the terms, definitions used and context of debate who controls the dialogue and it's eventual conclusion.
Hypocrisy is too small a word here for Europeans who consistently believe in their divine right to the world, its people and resources.
They make "serious", "informed" debate out of their own profound historical hypocrisy. This, hypocriscy, then through ideological machines (racism, education, media etc), becomes an intelligent issue where the victims of European expansion into the world, side with white people who have apparently lost soo much.
This dynamic has been a consistent, historic theme for us. Africans who had no choice on becoming immigrants (During Slavery) after been forcibly transported to be murdered on plantations, suddenly to European immigrants, became "The Negro Problem". Abraham Lincoln said of this problem
" There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races ... A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation, but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together............ Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and, at the same time, favorable to, or, at least, not against, our interest, to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task may be."
Abraham Lincoln
Springfield, Illinois
June 26, 1857
(Now let's make this clear here, according to HIStory, this is a great man, not some mad cracker. He is celebrated in the west and many Africans worship his memory. His statue stands outside the Parliament in Westminister, today. A great father of the west we now live in. )
European immigrants, telling Africans who they forced to suffer in America, that they represent a problem which can be solved by deporting them back to Africa. We, or non whites are always the problem. Regardless of history. While preaching freedom to all men. Insanity.
I’ve heard Africans phone in to talk shows complaining about the number of immigrants in the UK; this, while obviously immigrants born elsewhere themselves. Even the white presenter has had to remind the idiots of the contradiction.
And then probably offer them jobs promoting the "Black" and ethnic communites.
Europeans would love if the analysis of world history excused them for what they have done and continue to do to other peoples. Because this would help them continue to think that they are an inherently superior culture, who's present position on the planet is natural, right and divine. Not the produce of industrial murderers, rapists and thieves
For them, hypocrisy is a way of life, which they have forced on the world
Free our minds!
History is a people's memory, and without a memory, man is demoted to the lower animals
Omowale Malcolm X (1925 - 1965)
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08-04-08, 06:09 PM
I saw it last night and it was nothing more than a transparent attempt to alleviate the guilt of the white working class by transferring a portion of their own views to the African and other 'ethnic' communities. I understand what that brotha from Brixton was saying about his carpet cleaning business suffering, but sorry, if white Britain expects ME to join in their own furore they can forget it, because at the end of the day, if they lit the gas ovens tomorrow and they had to choose between us and the Poles, it's not the Polish immigrants that are going to burn. This country has never made me, my parents or my grandparents feel welcome so I'm not gonna shout this 'my country' business in a deluded sense of nationalism. When the time comes, me and my family are outta here. Then the poles and the British and whoever are more than welcome to fight amongst themselves for a slice of the pie.
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08-04-08, 06:10 PM
@ Breadfruit
I couldn't have put it better bro. Ya darn right!
But it is probably futile to ever hope that these people will see the truth of themselves. Hell, you are talking about a mindset that is able to 'rationalise and justify (by their own standards that is) such inhumane behaviour as paedophilia, beastiality (yeah I have seen documentaries where they make out that sh*t is some kind of 'natural' behaviour) and all manner of deviate and depraved practices. You can never expect that they will see any wrong in what they have done and continue to do.
Respect
Remember!
You are more likely to get what you deserve rather than what you want.
Make sure you DESERVE the things you want!
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12-04-08, 02:39 PM
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15-04-08, 11:47 PM
I was thinking the same don't dare try to rope us in some of us are doing our darn best and not dossing about to be usurped by Eastern Europeans their govt made the law for Military and Political concessions and to combat rising brown skinned Ethnicity...its their mess they deal with it...
@Breadfruit
Heres a few more....
Nigeria
Cuba-economically bit not the mindset
Congo
Angola
Iraq-but this one would run and run
Palestine
Most of the Caribbean exploited to the max its like their exclusive resort
one will need a bigger lie to cover the first one
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16-04-08, 12:23 AM
Some areas have more of an ethnic community than some other areas in the UK. This maybe seen as segregation by some people.
I haven't got a problem with this but i have noticed that some high street stores like Curry's in some areas with a high Asian population seem to employ mainly an all Asian work force.
I saw the most strangest thing whilst out shopping one day. I saw a fairly elderly Asian guy shouting at what looked like a Polish guy he told this guy that he thought that he was a b***** foreigner because he thought that he stole his wallet. I could never complain about the immigrant population in this country.
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17-04-08, 12:58 PM
Yes Breadfruit, yes. best post i've read for a while.   :blkclaphands_25 :
The thing that saddens me though is the amount of fool fool black people who will start blaming new immigrants for things as if they were now honarary white people. I must admit that I've caught myself muttering when I've been told I can't be seen by the Dr because today its Kosovan day where they bring in translators but then I've realised that its not the Kosavans fault, its the government who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery properly. I remind myself never to look down on a newcomer of any hue because like my parents they were invited here and are thus entitled to be here regardless.
Surely black people complaining about 'foreigners' must realise that they will never be accepted as English? One of the saddest days of recent times for me was when i was walking past a park in East London and 2 girls (one black, one mixed-race said hi to and asian boy, the asian boy told them point blank not to say hello to him today because yesterday when they had an argument the girls told him to 'go back where he came from'. I was flabberghasted and could not believe that two black girls could tell an Asian that, like they think they're white English, where have they learned this? I'm not advocating to beg friend and fight on behalf of other immigrant communities because I done know that many of them don't like us but i don't agree with siding with English racists against them either.
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17-04-08, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by babygirl44
Yes Breadfruit, yes. best post i've read for a while.   :blkclaphands_25 :
The thing that saddens me though is the amount of fool fool black people who will start blaming new immigrants for things as if they were now honarary white people. I must admit that I've caught myself muttering when I've been told I can't be seen by the Dr because today its Kosovan day where they bring in translators but then I've realised that its not the Kosavans fault, its the government who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery properly. I remind myself never to look down on a newcomer of any hue because like my parents they were invited here and are thus entitled to be here regardless.
Surely black people complaining about 'foreigners' must realise that they will never be accepted as English? One of the saddest days of recent times for me was when i was walking past a park in East London and 2 girls (one black, one mixed-race said hi to and asian boy, the asian boy told them point blank not to say hello to him today because yesterday when they had an argument the girls told him to 'go back where he came from'. I was flabberghasted and could not believe that two black girls could tell an Asian that, like they think they're white English, where have they learned this? I'm not advocating to beg friend and fight on behalf of other immigrant communities because I done know that many of them don't like us but i don't agree with siding with English racists against them either.
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If we do not have an accurate analysis of the problem, we cannot possibly develop a good strategy to resolve it.
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17-04-08, 05:32 PM
Would say theres still a certain comardre amongst us immigrants in this country, especially us non europeans.
Perhaps its a normal to an extent, a new group of migrants move into an area its bound to make people to worry about their social status if they are still living in the area and have to compete with them to a certain extent. Would class it as being something diffrent from the europeans and their aggression toward migrants perhaps, a resource problem rather than a cultural one.
Black Lion is... Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.
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