product you've used that has 100% done what it's advertised to do....and that you'd be willing to endorse if paid to do so.

Industry standard and always will be, no other company comes close.

The things last like no ones business, shame other companies seem to take to using disposable technology in their products, you make more if you can make a product that lasts like those turntables. Its the same with music, artists making cheap throw away tunes forgetting their income is residual, the best form of income you can hope to have a chance of earning, cheap throw away tunes will last you a year tops make a classic tune and you're set for for life, earning on a constant each time some DJ says your name and spins your track.

The band that made the Amen Break (check it out on youtube) would be the richest band on the planet if they kept the rights to that tune.

Now that is really funny Black Lion.

I worked on the great, great, granddaddy of that turntable.

Panasonic made the first direct drive turntable, the SP-10. I spent hours studying the circuit diagram. I was there when they introduced the Technics brand name. They didn't think Panasonic had the right panache to crack the hi-fi market. Everyone associated Panasonic with cheap home electronics.

I'm glad you selected hi-fi equipment though I would not buy a turntable today. I still have a couple stored away.

Here is my choice. Vandersteen 2ce speakers. I have the older 2ci model.



Stereophile: Vandersteen 2Ce Signature loudspeaker

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Several years ago I had an operation on the underside of my arm after a accident which left scaring and stretch marks around the scar after healing. Although I was lucky enough to have it positioned fairly out of sight I sometimes felt conscious that it might be on show and the questions would start. Anyway I kept seeing this tv ad for this stuff called BIO OIL , so eventually I brought some and could see the difference with in 2 weeks, i've been using it for almost 2 months now and the scar and stretch marks are so faded i don't even notice it. And let me stress THIS IS NOT A SKIN LIGHTNER OR BLEACHER. It's for scars, stretch marks, uneven skin tones ageing skin and dehydrated skin and don't quote me but it's sopose to be safe and work well during pregnancy stopping the stretch marks forming.

My Doctor said the scar would be permanent thats why I am happy to endorse this product. If you want to take a closer look just go to bio-oil.com

Interesting... is it only cosmetic Ebony? I've got scars but need to get rid of them completely, does it heal them or just clear up the tissue on the skin? If Bio-Oil can undo what a few drug dealers with metal pipes can I'll sing their praises more than I do those turntables and thats saying something.


Badass, have seen those before (in magazines that is .lol.) are they skeletal like that or is it just for display?

Thing about those turntables is that they're universal you can use them for a squat party pour beer all over them and they'll still work or you could use them with your high end audio equipment and they'll play just as well as (some) of the more expensive equipment out there... depending on what needle you use. The only company that rivals them, not including the high end makes are Vestax but they just can't get it right, same with stanton and Numark although Numark have been having a go recently...


Techniques didn't budge after bringing out;


Panasonic should stick to kitchen electrics, couldn't stand up to Sony back in the day.

Should keep your Turntables though man, can't beat them for sound quality, more people are making the mistake of throwing their record collection out after burning their tracks onto CD, vinyl retains value, MP3s aren't worth a thing.

The speaker on the left is what they really look like. The one on the right is has the grille cloth removed. It is called a Vandersock. LOL

That was one of the interesting tricks Vandersteen pulled when the speakers were introduced in 1977. Expensive high quality speakers of the day had expensive cabinets with nice woodwork. But that adds to the cost of the speaker. So do you want your money going into better sound or pretty wood? So the Vandersock gave the speakers an elegant appearance at low cost so the money could into producing better sound. I saw a website where someone said they were the best sounding speaker you could get for less than $4000. Pretty good for $1500.

Back in 1999, before they went out of business, AUDIO magazine said that a well recorded cassette sounded better than MP3. I make my MP3s with 5 to 1 compression but most downloads are 10 to 1 I think. I hated 8-tracks back in the day but most people were content with them.

I like the random play of MP3 but I still buy CDs and copy the tracks I like to CD-Rs so I can get 70 minutes of music I ilke and and put them in my 5-CD changer. MP3s are for the road. I checked a few days ago and New Egg has 500 gigabyte IDE drives for $120. SHOCKING

My Kenwood KD-500 with a Linn-Sondek arm is in a box. I also hve a Dual 1219 for sentimental reasons. Those were nice changers. I liked fixing them. I always thought straight tone-arms with angled heads made more sense than S and J shaped arms. Consumrs are so annoying. They will buy some bullshit for totally ridiculous reasons. Oh, the pains of being elitist.

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Nah man, J or S curled arms are better, weight distribution.

Sound of those speakers must be interesting considering they don't have a case, not forcing the sound out. Would just float freely... how's the bass sound though?

Used to buy all those audio mags, was into computers as well just didn't keep up with it all. The new DVD formats are pushing it all into Terrabytes now... would say that most people have a Terrabytes worth of space floating around them, think its all unnecessary, coined the term, ''Music gluttony'' a while ago but will extend the phrase and say, ''Entertainment gluttony'' a gwan out there. .lol.

Ok techo's in the house...Where do I get a good deal on the end of the arm 'thingy' (the whole piece is missing-my son foolishly stored his decks at my mothers house...she who considers anything not nailed down as clutter, threw all bits and pieces away)

Now my oldest as donated(or is that re-stored) his decks with my youngest son...£25+ per deck...damn things cost more than the origianal deck did, I'm sure.

Anyway back on topic

The product that I am apparently always raving about his domestic...

Bounty Kitchen Roll...

I know naff name, irritating advert but it really does do what it says on the tin... and then some.

I carry rolls around with me in the car, in my bag, suitcase if traveling

Popular usage include:

If I land at someones house without facecloths.

No plugs. They make a great plug hole blocker

Replacement for, mucky dish cloths (if they ain't bleach white I ain't using them)

You realy can ring them out and wipe again to soak up spilage...brlliant with oil.

Tissue paper/Napkins...if they get left in pockets during a wash cycle they don't disintergrate....And you don't have to run several cycles or pick for hours to get rid of the bits.

Cleaning out oil residue from fryed food/fryers ect....Filters for fryed food.

And they really are the Vinegar and brown paper of window cleaning.

They are so useful and I am so impressed I totally ignore my nagging concious about their enviromental impact....They really don't disentergrate.

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Sound of those speakers must be interesting considering they don't have a case, not forcing the sound out. Would just float freely... how's the bass sound though?

If you zoom in on the picture of the right speeker you will see that each driver is built into a separate box. Each box is cut away to show the inside. So the woofer, tweeter and midrange is in its own enclosure. This keeps the woofer from putting pressure on the back of the diaghram of the midrange and distorting the sound. The midrange and tweeter boxes are set back from the front of the woofer enclosure. This is part of the phase alignment of the Vandersteen design.

The Vandersteens replaced some AR-11s I bought in the 70s. I played Ben E. King's Stand By Me when I first installed the new speakers and I was actualyl shocked by the change in the sound of the triangle that is hit periodically during the song. It was like I could hear the difference in the sound of the triangle between the last time it was struck. I hooked the ARs back up and consciously listened to the triangle. I could hear it but I had to listen for it, it didn't jump out at me.

The ARs had 12 inch woffers and the Vandersteen has a 10 inch. But if you look at the lower rear in the cut away of the woofer enclosure you will see what looks like anothee woofer facing to the rear. They call it a passive radiator that lets more sound out the rear. The bass on a 2ci's is somewhat better than the ARs was but the difference isn't nearly as dramatic as the change in clarity of the high end.

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I cant really say I endorse this since I just found it.

But I can see where it has its uses.

Grace Digital Audio - USB Turntable - Transfer music directly from vinyl to your computer music library

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Urgh, the devils work, burn it. .lol.

**Vinyl purist here**

Wouldn't buy that one, the recording quality on those things is really bad, in fact I'd warn people to keep away from them and buy the slightly more expensive brand name versions over the £50 ones or next time you can't slap you're yout' fearing they might take you to court get a CD recorder (separates) and have them listen to and set each track from the vinyl as you record it direct onto CD, from there you can just convert them to what you want through your computer and the quality will still be good.

The only one of those I'd buy is the Teac;

Teac Turntable Vinyl to CD Recorder - LP-R400 - Retro/Vintage Home Decor Crosley Radio Reproductions Unique Gifts Tin Signs Enamelware

Even then you can't change the cartridge, the one it comes with looks rubbish, should be able to change it for that price.

Thats the type of sound quality I'm about, shame a lot of artists are using computers to make their music now, so much more genuine when its recorded live with the real instruments rather than sounds from Cubase or some program. Had a pair of akg headphones



An uncle gave me, shame I threw them out actually should have had them fixed but the sound was so good you could hear people in the back ground at times. Hes' got a pair like these;

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Not them, but a pair like them, like fitting radiators to your ears, need a separate amp for those other ones, AKG K1000s' limited edition.

Bwadness.