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10-04-08, 03:04 PM
whilst browsing blogs during the blackout of bnv i came across this article
its written by an african american who upon coming to the uk decided they was black again and seems to not have gotten the gyst of the whole race identity in the uk.
she sees the allegiance to the caribbean or africa as cliquish and not the way forward
anyway see what you think
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/op...a1&oref=slogin
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10-04-08, 03:21 PM
Lost her at a certain point in the article, about 3/4 of the way down.
We are cliquish here in the UK but its because (most of us) have only been here for 50 years and don't have any stake in being ''British'' no land, nothing, paying taxes for next to nothing so we're quite happy celebrating each others independence days and keeping our heritage in the face of a multi cultural agenda.
Can't serve two masters, obviously not stopping her from trying.
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10-04-08, 07:19 PM
An interesting perspective. I believe that the depth of her point might get overshadowed by her commentary on the Black Brits. Those points aside, she is speaking as an “African American” experiencing a new world view through the eyes of Blacks abroad. African Americans occasionally suffer from the same American ethnocentrism that whites in America suffer from. We tend to view the African American experience as the beginning and end of all non-continental Blackness. It appears as though the writer’s travels in Europe have given her a connection to African Diasporans and that that connection has transformed the way she views the struggle world wide. Its kind of like the Malcolm X experience. Before his homage to Mecca he thought the Nation of Islam was the quintessential Muslim experience. It was not until he rubbed elbows with non-Black Muslims and Muslims from around the world that he changed his views on Islam and race.
Travel has a way of changing one’s views on life. I experienced similar changes of view point after and during my own personal travels. In fact, I would say that the correlation between travel and the evolution of personal views can be anticipated with a high degree of certainty. Perhaps if every African descendant in the world was required to embark upon a travel, or living experience abroad, we would all have a more accurate view of our common struggle.
Thank you for reading.
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11-04-08, 04:27 PM
This article is beyond stupid...I just don't have time to comment right now so like the Governator of California, "I'll be back..."
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11-04-08, 05:13 PM
"......My partner is an Englishman....."
Figures.
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11-04-08, 05:56 PM
She just had to mention that she was married to some white guy. I'm not surprised though. I read about a lot of black Brits marrying whites which is sad. And her kids won't be black, but biracial. I'm so tired of people who are half black/half non-black being called only black. Anyway interesting article.
And do y'all know some black woman on blackhairmedia (she wants to be with a black man, though) said this site was disturbing because we don't like interracial relationships?
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11-04-08, 06:04 PM
Good, gotta keep the grey huggers out.
Those google adverts are bad enough.
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11-04-08, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alabamagirl
She just had to mention that she was married to some white guy. I'm not surprised though. I read about a lot of black Brits marrying whites which is sad. And her kids won't be black, but biracial. I'm so tired of people who are half black/half non-black being called only black. Anyway interesting article.
And do y'all know some black woman on blackhairmedia (she wants to be with a black man, though) said this site was disturbing because we don't like interracial relationships?
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 we are not anti - interracial per se
its just time and time again has shown that no new issues are discussed and those threads turn into anti black women/men threads. which is against the forum rules. i can do you better than you etc. plus there are plenty of forums out there for people utilise such debates if thats what they want
BACK TO TOPIC - i believe she has lost the whole black uk ethos. i wouldnt say we are cliquish were are just more in tuned with our parents lands because that connection has not been distorted our links our strong.
the majority of africans and caribbeans in the uk i know go back home to visit family ........says it all really
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12-04-08, 07:23 PM
Should we congratulate her? 
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12-04-08, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince Hakeem
"......My partner is an Englishman....."
Figures.
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I noticed. Wasn't feeling what she was saying either way.
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14-04-08, 12:49 AM
This is what I got from it as well. Neferkare expressed it better than I would have.
ETA: As a person from the United States, I prefer Black to African-American for the same reasons that the writer of the article and Neferkare expressed.
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Originally Posted by Neferkare
An interesting perspective. I believe that the depth of her point might get overshadowed by her commentary on the Black Brits. Those points aside, she is speaking as an “African American” experiencing a new world view through the eyes of Blacks abroad. African Americans occasionally suffer from the same American ethnocentrism that whites in America suffer from. We tend to view the African American experience as the beginning and end of all non-continental Blackness. It appears as though the writer’s travels in Europe have given her a connection to African Diasporans and that that connection has transformed the way she views the struggle world wide. Its kind of like the Malcolm X experience. Before his homage to Mecca he thought the Nation of Islam was the quintessential Muslim experience. It was not until he rubbed elbows with non-Black Muslims and Muslims from around the world that he changed his views on Islam and race.
Travel has a way of changing one’s views on life. I experienced similar changes of view point after and during my own personal travels. In fact, I would say that the correlation between travel and the evolution of personal views can be anticipated with a high degree of certainty. Perhaps if every African descendant in the world was required to embark upon a travel, or living experience abroad, we would all have a more accurate view of our common struggle.
Thank you for reading.
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15-04-08, 12:20 AM
I maintain that any African calling themselves "Black" are only being reactionary to this White Supremacist culture imposed on us and actually do more harm than good when it comes to the African Liberation struggle.
A Luta Continua—Lasima Tushinde Mbilishaka
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