And it's expensive...LOL

Mods or admin, can this be merged with the other 'Vogue related thread...
no point of having multiple threads on the same topic.

I want to buy this mag.

There is a long thread about this edition on this fashion forum here.
http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums...sel-69193.html

Like I said,i'll buy it if it has good pics,I buy Vogue about once or twice a year anyway but it's not the kind of thing id regularly purchase,not when you can get a good book for the same price.

Same way I dont buy Essence,O magazine,Cosmo,Marie Claire etc,etc...not when for a couple of quid more you can pick up a decent paper-back.

Having our own magazine is besides the point and another issue imo.

I could argue that many times you buy a rap record or RB tune you are lining the pockets of a white owned record company. Does this stop you buying the tune though?

Furthermore you could also argue that when any model is seen in Vogue they are undoubtedly furthering their own individual careers by no ends.

...and what about the aguement that if this issue doesnt sell, the arguement that 'Black Models do not sell magazines', will no doubt help to keep black models out of work.

and what about the aguement that if this issue doesnt sell, the arguement that Black Models do not sell magazines will no doubt help to keep black models out of work.

Why are Black Models obsessed with being enarmoured to a System that for hundreds of years have followed the same formula..are we supposed to jump for joy!!!...thanks massa

For those who want to buy the mags..maybe you should spend the money on the AIDS Charity for Mandela maybe get more of a say so on how its organised...but you rather focus on vanity..oh i forgot this are women afterall!!..priorities???
Let picture the aftermath...so you go to work and feel like finally Black and YT Models are now the same..i'm really struggling to see how this enhances the Black Womans value
As for the Models and furthering their career...who knows maybe they might get a decent job like everyone else

How would that be progress? Thats dependency.
That was uneccesary if you had read my entire post I was very much against the dependency and validation culture!!

Thing is AStmartins your arguement applies to all disciplines that black people decide to enter because unless we live in two different universes i cant see too many black owned industries sufficent enough for us not to entertain the "the system" in vast numbers. Black models afterall are going to work the same way you do each day when you're lining your white boss' pocket (ignore if your self employed)

No, our own magazines and industries are seperate issues, left to those with entrepreneurship qualities, and may the force be with them. In the meantime everyone else has the right to be treated equal within the system regardless of who owns what.

@LeMoor
Wow!!..is this what fatherhood does...your style has altered a tad but ay!!..its all good
Good point well though through however the other so called professions are not based on aesthetics as the foundation to break into the industry..with other professions the criteria is based more on ability(albeit the prejudice thats comes with it)..as an aside I have read that 'Ugly' people get passed over for promotion
Its worrying that one can chose a profession and get passed over time and time again..with work you can do voluntary work....work harder..get more qualifications e.t.c ....but you cannot change your LOOK unless you go the MJ route...

@Moderators
mmmhhh..why wasn't this in the Women's section?..Book Review!!! are we hiding this away for a reason??

I was just sent this in an email
the critique of the significance of Italian Vogue Black Issue is by
Dr Lez Henry

Lunacy is in Vogue - Dr. Lez Henry
The aftermath of the Vogue campaign… Make your own minds up…

Greetings to all

After receiving emails (see below) and texts and whatever else encouraging me to buy Vogue magazine to ‘support black beauty’ I thought I should share a conversation I had with a sister who sent me a text message at 6.50am, bright and early yesterday morning, cajoling me to invest in a magazine that I wouldn’t use to wipe my arse. First thing was the number was unknown to me so out of curiosity I called it to find out who would send me, of all people, such a text. For if they knew me they wouldn’t waste their time and energy in that way; more so encouraging me to buy a publication that overtly and covertly encourages Afrikans to distance themselves from the skin they’re in ‘by any means necessary’!

Anyway I called the number and it turned out to be a sister who I met the other day and the joke is I was just one of a blanket number of recipients who were supposed to rally to the ‘cause’ of getting the white world to acknowledge that ‘black’ can indeed be beautiful. I asked the sister “how will this be achieved?” Well simply buying this magazine sends a message to the owners that ‘we’, black people do care enough about ‘our’ condition to challenge the black-ugly flip-side to white-beauty, was more or less the response. To which I pointed out that the reason they will predict ‘poor sales’ of this rare issue (for all I know it could all be a hoax) is because the fact is that every time a black model has featured on the cover of such publications sales have plummeted.

Therefore how can ‘us’ throwing our money at ‘them’ change an aspect of global white supremacist thought and action that confuses many blacks and has them measuring themselves by white standards of beauty in the first place (I deal with this in my book Whiteness Made Simple: stepping into the grey zone www.nubeyond.com). Truth is these knee jerk reactions truly make me sick in much the same way as does the black super model, par excellence, who accused the white pilot of a plane she was removed from for being foul and abusive, of being a ‘racist’ because he didn’t get off the plane and look for her lost, designer luggage! Should we take our hard earned pennies and create a save the supermodel fund to ensure that this doesn’t happen again to one of ‘our’ beautiful blacks who no doubt will feature in the press again very soon for more acts of very public foolishness?

In a time when Afrikan-centred organisations and individuals are struggling to publish magazines, books, films etc. etc. to unshackle our minds, you can bet your bottom dollar that many who are circulating these stupid emails and texts have never circulated one that supports these endeavours, much less purchased any of their products or attended any of their events, which is why I suggest that when it comes to many blacks it seems that LUNACY IS TRULY IN VOGUE!!
Knowledge gives us the power to liberate or enslave

Hotep
Bro Lez

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I don't get it. How does buying this edition of Vogue 'support' black models? You don't think it means Vogue is going to change its 'policy' on black models do you? Certainly you can't be expecting that it will mean a change where they start using black models predominantly?

Nah, all it does is help earn Vogue revenue (hence the 'advertising' campaign for this issue). The models get paid whether the issue sells in millions or only a couple of copies.....if there were on sales commissions that may be a reason to buy as many copies as possible to boost the models earnings......though why they don't get a proper job is beyond me...lol

Furthermore, Vogue policy is hardly likely to change whether the issue sells in millions or only a couple of copies. What it could mean though is that 'on-going' black subscribtions to Vogue goes up on the back of this SINGLE issue owing to our (gullibility) in believing it means Vogue is now starting to care about black models.

Respect

I think the issue itself will be a good one. I know it wont make a damned bit of difference to the way Black models are dealt with within the industry. Having a Black issue of the mag is one thing, but challenging mindsets is totally another.

I'd rather fashion magazines in general were more diverse. Period.

Dont mean to sound paranoid but this (in a strange way) could make it less likely that the racial prejudices within the fashion industry and magazines in general is ever seen as a legitimate issue.

Picture this:

Black girl:

"The fashion industry is so racist towards Black beauty"

Random non Black/fool fool Black:

"How can you say that, they had an ALL Black Vogue not long ago, now how can they possibly be racist.....you know you really have to get rid of that chip on your shoulder.....its becoming aggressive......."


Its the equivalent of saying "I'm not racialist, I've got Black friends and I always eat curry on a Friday.