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Default Where now for white people, in a world where race supremacy is not so embolden? - 04-06-08, 08:32 PM

IN the book the Isis Papers Cress Welsing quotes Neely Fuller who observes:

That racism is not merely a pattern of individual and/or insitutional practice: it is a universal operating system of white supremacy and domination in which the majority of the world's white people participate......Neely fuller goes on to make the point that: the goal of the white supremacy system is non other than the establisment, maintainance, expansion, and refinement of world domination by groups classified as the 'white' race.


We have talked endlessly about the effects of RACISM on Black people, however my thoughts are in context of the above is, what about the EFFECT on the WHITE race..and their abilty or NOT to cope with a strong BLACK person competing directly with them on a less uneven field....

Over the last year there has for me been three key incidents that has pointed to the fragility of the white psyche, in a less race embolden world.. and more importantly their inability to compete on an equal playing field, or accept losing on an playing field where they historically set the rules and the conditions..

In the last century the white mantra has always been to pay lip service to the concept of ‘equality’, they often spout within a white supremacy concept that people should be chosen on merit safe in the knowledge, that the historic condictions of white supremacy will favour them come what may...

So it was interesting observing the ‘conclusion’ of the Democratic leadership election unfolding last night.. that I suddenly had a sense of deja vu....Observing Hillary's behaviour and that of her followers....mainly 'WHITE WOMEN'.

I was struck by how white people even in a so called equalise playing field, appeared to completely lose it and fall apart emotionally when being beaten by a BLACK person..... and as much as Obama is currently being flayed by the comments of the White catholic pastor Pfleger [spelling] who mocked Hilary a few days ago... about her sense of entitlement..... The fact is what he said had more than a grain of truth, Hillary with the knowledge and benefit of White supremacy behind her...never saw Obama coming until it was too late....

When I saw Hillary's behaviour last night I kept thinking I've seen this behaviour before bt where? The moodiness, the arragoance, the sense of entitlement and underhand game playing and then the tantrum....

last night Hillary spoke about being ‘open to the VP slot’..not that I would be honoured to work with Obama, not that I got beaten by the better man... Then her reluctance to concede defeat after it was universally acknowledged that he passed the finishing line... again reinforces her sense of white entitlement...

Then it struck me where I'd seen this behaviour before, a few months ago we had the specticle of Alonso [White]...doing very much the same thing against Hamilton [black] who like Obama beat Alonso more than once fair and square in Formula 1 GP.. Again if people remember the behaviour of alonso....the lack of graciousness in defeat, the inability to admit he was beaten, the name calling and then finally cohesion of the Maclaren team to demote Hamilton to 2nd driver status BEHIND Alonso... speaks to the frigility of the WHITE Phyche to cope with a strong BLACK mind...

Finally I have often spoken to our very own Geoff here on BNV, about the English inability to compete with BLACK newcomers to the Uk.. they [white people] have this sense of entitlement.. Whereby they[White people] feel unable and unwilling to accept being on a EQUAL basis as non English people.....in areas of activity such as Employment, housing, football etc , [even Fifa is talking about restricting Forigen player for fear that indigious players of european countries cannot compete equally with Black players].

How many times do you hear English people moan about people 'jumping the housing que' or hear them moan about 'people taking their jobs'...but the underlying issue is that RACISM has made them lazy..weak and too stupid to compete against Black people who have not only adapted but learnt how to circumvent their rules on racism to our benefit!!!

I contend that racism/white supremacy, doesn't weaken Black people so much as it weaken White people who do not appear able or willing to cope or compete without this crutch to give them a headstart in all activities of white Supremacy...


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Default 04-06-08, 09:17 PM

interesting K
Indeed rascism does make us forcefully have to work harder and therefore we achieve better.
some white folk just assume they are better by the colour of their skin untill like hilary they woke up and realised that it nah go so


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How are they going to react to America having a black president? Can you imagine Obama commanding respect from leaders and peoples in various countries?... and if thats not bad enough for them his wife and kids are as chocolate as you're going to get... interesting times ahead.



I wanted to know if the Dagara elders could tell the diffrence between fiction and reality. The elders did not understand what a starship is, they did not understand what the fussy uniforms had to do with anything but they recognized in Spock a Kontomble of the seventh planet... they had never seen a Kontomble that big.
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How are they going to react to America having a black president? Can you imagine Obama commanding respect from leaders and peoples in various countries?... and if thats not bad enough for them his wife and kids are as chocolate as you're going to get... interesting times ahead.
That's whats been bugging me. There hasn't been the backlash I was expecting...or are we going to get sucker puched from behind? I haven't heard from the Rednecks or the KKK and White America seems have to have gone mute.
And I look at John McCain and think "you should retire now".

Maybe its my British mentality thinking this could never happen in Britain in a million years because white British would never be lead by a black man/woman.
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Default 05-06-08, 07:09 PM

Think theres a simmering current of white guilt behind many of the votes with his focus on change, the whole terrorism bit didn't go down too well. What I want to see is how those at the top behave toward him, doesn't count perhaps as he is still overseen by their establishment but it won't take away the fact that hes President, a boss is a boss no matter what way the economy or politics pushes or pulls.

John McCain won't win, hes republican and is too old, the two don't go well together people don't trust old right wingers, need a fresh face for that like Cameron and his posse.


I wanted to know if the Dagara elders could tell the diffrence between fiction and reality. The elders did not understand what a starship is, they did not understand what the fussy uniforms had to do with anything but they recognized in Spock a Kontomble of the seventh planet... they had never seen a Kontomble that big.
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Hmmm, i don't get it....K will go up in arms about this....but, me thinks your argument is a thinly disguised celebration of Obama's win....

Are we supposed to celebrate because some half breed man in AMERICA has beaten some white women in a primary election? Are we to look at this with ANY meaning? What does it actually acheive for AFRICANS? Both examples you've given are people i have nothing in common with, except the tan....If Obama was the son of BOTH Kenyan parents, but born in America, he wouldn't have won this in a million years! Thats a fact.....so the idea that even a fraction of white supremacy is not working anymore is laughable.

So what now for white people? Well the more important question should be, what now for Africans....what exactly have we gained because of a Mr Lewis Hamilton or Obama? Did our children suddenly woke up and boom, white people are not racist anymore...haahhaa

What now for white people? Hmmm, let me see, they will continue screwing the world, with Obama seating right there next to them(he ain't doing no jack shit even if he wins anyways) and they will have the last laugh when Hamilton spends a small fortune for a wedding to one of their fugly daughters.

Nothing has changed or affected me as an African woman....the only time i will say what now for European arrogance is the day they come begging to Africa for some fruits and veg.....and forgiveness(even though i wouldn't piss on them even if they were on fire)


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Hmmm, i don't get it....K will go up in arms about this....but, me thinks your argument is a thinly disguised celebration of Obama's win....

Are we supposed to celebrate because some half breed man in AMERICA has beaten some white women in a primary election? Are we to look at this with ANY meaning? What does it actually acheive for AFRICANS? Both examples you've given are people i have nothing in common with, except the tan....If Obama was the son of BOTH Kenyan parents, but born in America, he wouldn't have won this in a million years! Thats a fact.....so the idea that even a fraction of white supremacy is not working anymore is laughable.

So what now for white people? Well the more important question should be, what now for Africans....what exactly have we gained because of a Mr Lewis Hamilton or Obama? Did our children suddenly woke up and boom, white people are not racist anymore...haahhaa

What now for white people? Hmmm, let me see, they will continue screwing the world, with Obama seating right there next to them(he ain't doing no jack shit even if he wins anyways) and they will have the last laugh when Hamilton spends a small fortune for a wedding to one of their fugly daughters.

Nothing has changed or affected me as an African woman....the only time i will say what now for European arrogance is the day they come begging to Africa for some fruits and veg.....and forgiveness(even though i wouldn't piss on them even if they were on fire)
Mez; actually you read me totally wrong...I'm NOT naive enough to believe that Obama's election or otherwise will change our condition..and the thread was not really about us in the context you took it.... It was an is about flippin the script to look at the white mindset and their ability to cope or NOt in a changing climate....

I used Hillary's & alonso as an example because their behaviour i think highlights what happens to a lot of blacks who take on and BEAT whites at their own game.... I actually thought hillary's behaviour is interesting especially when you chart it from the beginning of the champaign...

If you remember she EXPECTED to win...and I have been fascinated by her and her husbands behaviour and the way they have revealed more and more of their true race behaviour as the race....slipped away from them..thats the bit i'm focusing on...not really the Obama win as such...


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the sense of entitlement is a truth about white supremacy in white countries that rears its ugly head now and again, but then where is this not the norm where a majority are concerned? i would lapse into that mind set if, as an African in Africa, some half caste Jerry Rawlings got more votes than me at the ballot box. i would be engulfed in a sense of rage, of being let down by my own: of self betrayal, of being a bunch of suicidal incompetents.

in electing Obama, it's white people doing the voting, after all. Hillary knows that. she also knows why they are doing it. white folk will not vote a man with 1/4 African blood in him unless they know, they are sure they are running the show. they do not trust black people as much to do otherwise. there is something to be had in voting in a half black man at this point in history.

she knows serious argument rages within the white camp over this issue, hence the finely divided votes.

what she is lamenting, moaning and fretting about, more so than a black person winning over her, is the loss of a historic moment: to elect the first woman president in America, to win... appease her ego even. she is too intelligent not to realize Obama was hand picked to win from the get go. she went up against the motion her own race raised in doing this, trying desperately to convince the lords at the think tank headquarters (who she definitely takes for idiots by now), that the policy change facade it is not really necessary.

i think it is the stubbornness of those who pull the strings behind the scenes, the way they have fought her to the end, their resilience, that vexes her into a tantrum.

in parting, she still doesn't agree with their line of reasoning, still believes a historic chance has been squandered.

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those AmeriKKKan election affairs are nothing but Hillary-ious...
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Default 06-06-08, 11:03 AM

this is just my laymanly assessment, but i do seriously believe that Obama was handpicked to sit in the brown, i mean white as snow house, and that, in finding it necesary to apease the naysayers, the leaders (real leaders of the western world) found it necesary to give Hillary and co the illusion they stood a chance of winning (changing the nation's mind), kind of making it all seem like fair play, you know?
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this is just my laymanly assessment, but i do seriously believe that Obama was handpicked to sit in the brown, i mean white as snow house.
Agree but as K.F said its interesting all the same. Clintons reaction to it all was definitely racial, she'll have problems working under him... unless she expects him to get assassinated putting her in the driving seat... wouldn't surprise me if that happens.

Obama Vs Mugabe???


I wanted to know if the Dagara elders could tell the diffrence between fiction and reality. The elders did not understand what a starship is, they did not understand what the fussy uniforms had to do with anything but they recognized in Spock a Kontomble of the seventh planet... they had never seen a Kontomble that big.

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