Can people from all over such a large continent have common interests and place those above their own country's immediate interests.

Has such a thing ever been done before in history(not by force)?


what would it REALISTICALLY take for true pan africanism to exist? moving beyonf rhetoric and applying it in practical terms?

It does exist

I think what you are asking in a roundabout way is can it's objectives be achieved?

Objectives being a liberated and unified Africa.

The only common interest required is liberation and unification.

Singular interest serve only to maintain a state of imperialism.

What would it take for it to exist in its true form? Unification around a common goal which would be Liberation.

Force would only have to be used if any people or group forcefully opposed Liberation which would make them enemies.

Education is key.

liberation from whom exactly?


there is no foreign flag that flies over any par of Africa.


And don't you think that basic human needs..food.clothing shelter..education..work, are more pressing issues to individual Africans....than pan africanism...

Africans need to be liberated from the idea that the majority of our natural resources is the rightful property of the West and other non African people. This has made Africans poor when they shouldn\'t be. All the European gave us for independence was a flag and a song. Pan Africanism is what all African people want because it means unity. That\'s why they feared Nkrumah, Lumumba and now hate Mugabe\'s opposition to their continued rape of Africa.

No foreign flags. Most of Africa and the whole of the Caribbean now have their own flags, their own national anthems and heads of state (elected or otherwise). But does this make them free from imperialism?

Of course 'food, clothing and shelter' are pressing needs but are they achiveable to all without liberation from imperialism?

@Dothej

What is Pan Africanism?

Catastrophes also have a way of uniting people, a instills a sense of urgency where peoples egos would otherwise hamper progress.

China Invades Africa

cultural political social and economic cooperation and consolidation among Africans worldwide. that's my take.

We need liberation from foreign influence and power. You have millions of Afrikans not being tended to because the leaders of respective nations have to bend over backwards to appease the U.S., Britain, or other foreign powers. If they oppose their will then they get blockaded, embargoed, get foreign aid cut, or get hit with penalties through the World Bank or IMF which all stifles stabilization (and thereby growth) of most Afrikan nations.

Liberation can only come when we sever our predominant reliance on Indo-European economics, technology, politics, and so forth. Yes, we are "free" in principle, but not in practice. When we assert our practical independence, there will certainly be a fight between Afrika and the Indo-European/Asiatic world so we have a long way to go to for Afrikan Liberation.

that's along the lines od what I'm getting at

how realistically do you think it is that fundamental changes to how countries are governed will take place?


and wouldn't this have to take place before true consolidation of power can take place among Africans?


I'm thinking of realistic and practical things for the future...

If we take heed to the words of Dr. Amos Wilson, then we will realize that it doesn't matter as much how those countries are governed if we understand exactly what power is. Look at how China and some Middle East countries are governed? An abstract view of these would could be perplexing as to their prosperity while Afrika suffers. Power is nothing more than the functional relationships a people have. Each country has no functional relationships with other Afrikans either on the Continent or in the Diaspora (as Israel does with Diasporic Jews) to even entertain the thoughts of power. This can change and mold the future of Afrika in terms of consolidating power regardless of the government.

let's not go off topic......you made mention that the current way countries are ruled(puppet leaders...euros rule by remote control) impede progress.....

and i asked how realistic is it that the current ways of governing will change?

still awaiting your reply..