Don't Fall for the "Africa" Trap!

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#1 (**permalink**))

I'm sure all the culturally aware Afrikans have been confronted either by Europeans or Indo-European/Arab-persuaded Afrikans who pose the question, "What did Africans call the Continent (of Afrika) before Europeans named it?"

This is a trap! So, please do not fall into this line of thinking whenever this question is invariably directed towards you. The reason this is a trap is for the simple reason that Afrikans did not only inhabit the land mass today known as "Africa." We settled the earliest classical civilizations of EurAsia (Sumer, Mesopotamia, Indus-Kush, China, etc.) as well. Given this, there was absolutely no reason the rational-minded Afrikan would segregate, and thereby give a different name, to a portion of land that didn't fully encompass the earliest grounds of their civilizations.

It was not until about 4000 BCE when "whites" known as the habiru migrated out of the mountains (today known as the Russian steppes) to invade these aforementioned classical Afrikan civilizations. The result of which was incessant rape and pillaging of our civilizations which is where the Semite (Arabs, Hebrews, etc.) comes out of this uncivil union.

Today, we look at Asia and it is dominated by the descendants (Arabs, Persians, etc.) of this white destruction of our ancient civilizations. Therefore, most of us (myself included) have at times fallen for the white supremacist thought pattern that Afrikans were ethnically indigenous to the newly-defined "Continent." So much so that we now entertain questions such as, "what did Africans call the Continent before Europeans named it so?"

If you must give an answer, then the Continent was the big house and back yard, while EurAsia was our driveway and front yard where we played.

DtotheJ · (#2 (**permalink**))

don't get it.

what did europeans call europe?.... to me technically speaking europe is the only continent that is not really a continent.... which ever criteria is used to determine continents....europe seems to not fit any.

anyway Shemsi, white racism is a never ending maze, but I think sometimes we go overboard in trying to "combat" it.

I don't think it's a racist question....I just think that we may not like what the answer is or feel some kind of way about what the question is implying.

most european thinking is built on a house of cards anyway...so if you probe and ask them questions.. at some point they'll have to admit that it was "outsiders" influence that pulled them out of cultural nothingness...

if you hit people with facts and truth, don't have to play the shell game.

We are powerful people.....we contribute so much to the world we don't have to run and talk about what our people did thousands of years ago to justify our importance to anybody...

Agu Bu Oji- · (#3 (**permalink**))

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what did europeans call europe?.... to me technically speaking europe is the only continent that is not really a continent.... which ever criteria is used to determine continents....europe seems to not fit any.

Makes me laugh, they like to call it Eurasia but it only highlights the cultural seperation between themselves and others on the Asian continent... another is the Americas... considering Mexico links South with North is it one big continent or does that not count?

DtotheJ · (#4 (**permalink**))

never thought of the western hemisphere as just one big continent.....

tell you what though...the BS about europe is evident in how russia is categorized as being in europe when technically it's just northern asia...

apparently some series of mountains....separates europe from asia

Agu Bu Oji- · (#5 (**permalink**))

Water like mountains separating the ground to such a depth that they're unmistakably separate landscapes .lol.

The russians sit with the asian council, league, union or what ever it is they have out there. Find it strange... they don't consider themselves european, only with the entroaching E.U states that some are their culture is even removed from the typical, typified european.

Mokele Mbembe · (#6 (**permalink**))

The Ural mountains seperate Asia from Europe. The range spilts Russia. Russia is in both continents. Turkey too is in both continents, famously Istanbul being a city in two continents.

Agu Bu Oji- · (#7 (**permalink**))

Meh... why do other mountain ranges not define continents? I'm taking this example as a rule being made up as someone goes along. Mountain ranges fall between plenty of other places.... europe also does not begin with an, ''A'' as all the other continents do.

Dosen't wash... hardly a barrier either.

Agu Bu Oji- · (#8 (**permalink**))

Sorry... how does the Ural mountains circumnavigate the black sea in order to make istanbul a city of two continents? Can see where the east west line is drawn perhaps but how does a mountain range cross another mountain range and not become something else all together? The urals only divides 2/3's of russia.

Asking as I'm unfortunate enough to have a world map on my wall and too much time on my hands as I lost my job the other day.

alabamagirl · (#9 (**permalink**))

The Indus Valley civilization nor ancient China was inhabited nor built by us. We have to draw the line somewhere.

meknow · (#10 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by DtotheJ

don't get it.

what did europeans call europe?.... to me technically speaking europe is the only continent that is not really a continent.... which ever criteria is used to determine continents....europe seems to not fit any.

anyway Shemsi, white racism is a never ending maze, but I think sometimes we go overboard in trying to "combat" it.

I don't think it's a racist question....I just think that we may not like what the answer is or feel some kind of way about what the question is implying.

most european thinking is built on a house of cards anyway...so if you probe and ask them questions.. at some point they'll have to admit that it was "outsiders" influence that pulled them out of cultural nothingness...

if you hit people with facts and truth, don't have to play the shell game.

We are powerful people.....we contribute so much to the world we don't have to run and talk about what our people did thousands of years ago to justify our importance to anybody...

I think I am going to have to agree with DothelJ on the point that not much of this is relative to our people for them to make decisions that will be productive to them. All this is great information to be sure. great topic from the intellectual side of things. but if we view us on a pie chart how big of a slice of the pie would the chart show for us who could take this information and move the mark.

if the black intel is concerned about moving us some place either physically or a state of mind then you must process the info and then give us data that can be computed by people trying to pay of a note on a 67 tarus so they can pay the rent. this is the scattered nation of Africa of what ever you want to call her. we are all over the place with no sense of direction, no knowledge of what unity would do for us.

Forgive me if i missed the impetus and this is only intellectual banter (good banter) and not an attempt to look at and for measures to bring us again to a people not under the influence of the world's system without realizing that we have the ability to do better.

you the academiens have to chew the food and give it to us at my level in some measure that we can process it to be able to move us in the direction we need to go.

i think this is good stuff tho! i am at that point in my life where the tarus does not matter.

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#11 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by alabamagirl

The Indus Valley civilization nor ancient China was inhabited nor built by us. We have to draw the line somewhere.

Uhm...what?

Actually they were. There very first two dynasties of ancient China were "black." The same can be said for the Indus Valley...

Agu Bu Oji- · (#12 (**permalink**))

Man... people always go on like the fisrt Indian civilization was this that and the other... has anyone been to India? They've got the highest population of darkskinned folk in the world, haven't gone anywhere, they're still there. Wether or not they consider themselves Afrikan or not is another issue, more those of them down south... most of them carry the same straight nosed and haired features and traits of those middle eastern or of many North African Africans... those of us with straight or coolie hair are North African/central Asian.... like the Kemeitians, they're not dead.

Bandele · (#13 (**permalink**))

some of you need it to be spelt out

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