ayanfe2006 wrote: Black hawk down was not a true battle dude, it was an army policing force that went completelyawry. They went with the arrogant intent to police and ended up in a firefight that they lost. If the US wanted to really attack Somalia it would have did to Somalia what it did to Iraq twice,Yugoslavia, and Afghanistandcomplete and utter indescriminate carpet bombing for weeks cleaned up on the news to say they only hit military and strategic targets.......when in fact theybombed every group of people that numbered over 100 not leaving a structure standing if they can help it.

What you, I,and the rest of the world witnessed is the US saying "We went there to help the darkies, but they killed some of our people and the country is of little to no value and we do not see a highly profitable return on any investment we may put into SOmalia, so let's pull out." Kinda like they do to AAs, let us have the small victories, but only challenge us seriously on the larger ones. And ignore us completely if they have nothing to gain...see Nawlins and Katrina

The lives whte or black that were lost were of no consequence to the US as nothing was to be gainedto them from either. Yet notice how long US involvement has been in countries where something of value is.....

If the US actually wanted Somalia ALL OF US would have been screaming at the top of our lungs about the devastation of Somalia by US hands. You cannot even fathom the greed and capabilites of the destructive nature of this country when it wants something.

So what I said rang true and it was no joke, African countries may (with may as I said before leaving in the possibility of a win) lose to a western country hell bent on conquering it, but when was the last time a Western power deemed it necessary to attack an African country?

You speak of pride but seem to not know the level of weaponry, I mean logically what African nation do we know that can launch an assault on a western nation at the moment? We are speaking at the moment not in the future, but at this moment? Or with stand a 1-2 month complete bombing of its civlian infrastructure ?

I could make the same conclusion about if this happened to AAs and speak with pride and my ego saying that we would do this and that BUT logically and historically speaking, we may put up a valiant fight, BUT we would be in the end diabolically wiped out due to the overwhelming firepower of the cavemen at the moment.

As much pride as we have in our people, the cavemen have and limit access to the mightiest weapons. If that has not convinced you what about thermo nukes? I mean who is the only nation to have ever used nukes on civvies? If it came down to it, you don't think that the US would have anAfrican nation glowing for 100 years? And being that we are not suicide bombers by nature how would an African nation strike back from that?

Its not about proving the US is better, I am just saying that currently standing up to them in a 1 v 1 all out war is too much for any African, South American, or Middle East country to withstand logically.

LOLI'm sure when babylonssentinels infiltrate the BN Village in search of any sign of the African uprising, they leavesaying ''they're still fragmented,no threat there!'

stick-upKid wrote: My point is stickup speaking from a strictly military point of view....

(Note this may hurt a lot of egos and feelings across the board in the diaspora.....)

Africans in the Diaspora are not willing to fight for their survival or the survival of others simple as that. Most on here and in the Diaspora are against the militaries of their respective western nations.

So where would we get the will to fight? Or the necessary training to fight a real war?

I mean look at the Birmingham incident there (I could have used NO for the AAs, but you are in the UK). And I hate to go there again, but many people on here were selling wolf tickets and when it came to time to hit the streets to go to war, how many went? How many engaged in combat in the streets with Asians or the police to protect other Africans in Birmingham when there were reports of rioting which left Africans dead. Not police, whites, or Asians but Africans. Now with recent history proving that you will not fight for your own in the closer communityyou are in, why would I think that you would risk your life to "help" as you say Africans on the Continent?

IN this case the continental African would be fighting from his standpoint for his very livelihood. And as Somalia proved, not matter what a group of people care about each other, they will band together to repel the greater threat which would be invading Diasporans. And while the Diasporans even if they could successfully take a city, what is to stop the Continental Africans from regrouping outside of said area and launching their own counter attack? This would be a brutal war and one from talking to most Diasporans, one I do not think the Diasporans would win as the Diasporans would be seen as trying to force their way of life on the Continental and the Continental would see himself in a Do or Die situation.

I know that you are thinking that the white mercs almost took over the country, but in an overthrow that was coming like that, those 64 mercs were going to be leaders leading other Africans on the inside against the African gov't that was to be overthrown. What African nation trustsDiasporans at the moment enough to band with them to overthrow another African nation? The weapons cache on board with them was for waiting armies in those countries.

Shemsi en Tehuti wrote: After Katrina and the Birmingham incidents nah I am not. That slapped me awake into seeing that this generation of bold Africans are bravery dead when riots against us and national disasters affecting us primarily were not acted on by other Africans who were near the situations.

Still logically, I look at trying to train a group of Africans in a western state as utter suicide. I mean look at Ruby Ridge where the man was surrounded by gov't law enforcement after refusing to help them infiltrate the Aryan nation. They wounded him, killed his dog, killed his 14 yr old son, shot his his friend, shot his 16 yr old daughter and a sniper put a shot through the head of his wife while she was holding their infant. And they did this to Aryan sympathizers. Now if they get this evil with their own imagine what would happen with a group of Africans training in their backyard..........