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thismay seem likegoing down the testy road of whose fault it is that we are in the situation we are in today, but it is not. i am wise enough not to blame the lynched man for the lynching, rather than the lynch mob. this is about the role we have played, repeatedly, the role we are playing even now, even at these forums we frequent, the role we have played through the ages, that has brought all this on ourselves, destroyed our civilization, and rendered us to huts, slums, and second class status wherever we are a minority or otherwise.

even the dangers that are plaguing mankind today are a direct consequence of our inability to keep our mouths shut, to keep what we know to ourselves, to realize a stage once reached is an evolutionary step, that you cannot simply give it toanother and all out there without allowing them to develop gradually for wisdom to take hold wthin their makeup.

but no! we have to talk, we have to show how well we can think, how much we know about this or that issue, how deep our intellectual perception is. we are pleasers whowant to ingratiate ourselves into the favours of others by impressing them with how much we can see, how well we can do something. this is not a new thing, one restricted to our time. partly because they felt it was a good thing to do, but also partly because of this complex, our ancestors had to go out in the world and teach, become renouned professors, spread civilization, only ending up making others jealous and hungry for that magic well of knowledge, the magic wand that opens doors, makes man powerful. so eager were our ancestors to speak what they knew they didn't realize their students would soon use what they had learnt to destroy us... check the record for the past 10 thousand years, go back as far as ancient greece, even beyond in some other places. the patern you find there is a playing out of exactly what i am saying here.

funny how Franz Fanon was one of the most hated black men of his time, hunted by the French, survived several assasination attempts, killed eventually by the Americans, right at the time he was suffeing from one of their induced diseases, leukemia. whether it was ignorance of who had given him the disease, or that he actually had no choice left, he entered America, very sick at the time, but was kept in an interogation room for too long by the CIA. he died a few days after that. he was so hated, yet activities of his haters reveal he was actually secretly admired,because after his death they delved into his philosophy, they delved into his logic, almost made a discpline of this. over the period since he died, Franz Fanon's works may be some of the most studied in the west, with numerous books, numerous intellectuals getting in on the act to figure out the civilization within his genes that was hidding between his words. innocuous seeming things he said, even we say sometimes,can have advanced applications in things we may not even be aware of, sometimes in fields that seem not to even be related to what is being put down in script.

its the same old song, same old ish where even our ancestors are not allowed to rest in peace in their tombs, where we the descendants are preyed upon in our own homes, our forums. after all else was runsacked, searched and upturned in the Egyptian deserts and other places, after these relicshad yielded their most precious secrets, the descendants of the people became the new objects of study in an ongoing search for the key, as indeed civilization is also etched deep within their genes. problem is we the descendantsare in such a decrepit statewe hardly know how to utilize ourspiritual wealth in the here and now, to our advantage, and it is actually in the best interests of those who dominate the world at the present to maintain this state of being, to prevent us from knowing or accidentally discovering/stumbling intothe catalytic culture that enables efficient expression, frees our creativie potentials.

pharao remains were once upon a time cooked and eaten "in the hope of gaining some of that old wisdom", and the same is happening to us the descendants figuratively speaking. this will sound strange, stupid or silly to many, but it is true. we are at present, at least those among us they have identified as direct descendants of the best that was (and believe me they know because they have done their homework as an imperative), but sacrifices on the alter of science, observed in all we do, listened to whatever we sa. as i said already, though we may not know it, some of what we bring forth contains wisdom beyond our imaginations.

there is a pressing need for us toshush the mocking bird. you may not have heard of it, you think they may not have heard of it, you think you may need to tell them about it... keep it at thought and private conversation because believe me, they know. no matter how ignant a black person seems, no matter how stupid their speach or behaviour, deep down what you think you have to say to help them out of their abyss is already known to them, sometimes in language you cannot even comprehend. we all know what is going on, we are all keeping the plot, that means you, me, the brother on the streets stabbing somebody, the sister selling her body. we know, and trying too hard to give verbal shape to our misery taps too deeply into the well of knowledge we have stored within us. we are not beneficiaries of this wealth in the end, and, the way the world is narrow mindedly arranged today,this knowledge will be used against us.

above all we have to stop thinking about our life as a people in present terms. by this i mean we need to develop and share an outlook about life in the minds of all our people that creates relationships, correlations between what is happeningn to us now as being a continuation of what has been happening to us for thousands of years. this is the only way we will get to understand why things are the way they are at present. there are things that happen to Africans today that cannot possibly be explained by events on the ground,by aspirations of some classes or people, like politicians. the IRA where fighting for independence but non of the stuff that is being done to us (repression et al) was done to them. obviously, there is something else that's at play, something deeper going on that we can only get to grips with through the esoteric, that branch of black knowledge that deals with such obscure issues as melanin, etc.
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But no! We have to talk, we have to show how well we can think, how much we know about this or that issue, how deep our intellectual perception is. we are pleasers whowant to ingratiate ourselves into the favours of others by impressing them with how much we can see, how well we can do something. this is not a new thing, one restricted to our time. partly because they felt it was a good thing to do, but also partly because of this complex, our ancestors had to go out in the world and teach, become renouned professors, spread civilization, only ending up making others jealous and hungry for that magic well of knowledge, the magic wand that opens doors, makes man powerful. so eager were our ancestors to speak what they knew they didn't realize their students would soon use what they had learnt to destroy us... check the record for the past 10 thousand years, go back as far as ancient greece, even beyond in some other places. the patern you find there is a playing out of exactly whatI am saying here.

Wouldn't you say that that was/is our purpose? As the first peoples its within us to spread knowledge and civilization and in that case, as we were bright enough to teach, it can only be our 'fault' for not considering the consequences of what was taught?

We aren't currently tight knit enough to discover something and keep it to ourselves, sadly the only way to spread knowledge is by bringing out books and making people aware of it first and as we walk they innately follow true to their nature... The Metu Neter volumesare probably in the hands of many Egyptologists by now.

Can see what you're saying though. We're an extrovert peoples, we need to become introverted in what we do. Prehaps create a new language or two.


I wanted to know if the Dagara elders could tell the diffrence between fiction and reality. The elders did not understand what a starship is, they did not understand what the fussy uniforms had to do with anything but they recognized in Spock a Kontomble of the seventh planet... they had never seen a Kontomble that big.
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With any gift and the power and/or influence of that gift comes the responsibility to not misuse it and also to share it as the purpose of that gift dictates. Teaching is hardwired into our being, it is a part of resiporatory ways of Divine knowledge, which isn't meant to be held onto as a crutch for power. Knowledge wasn't meant to be hidden, but those who are meant to know will know and understand. Hiding knowledge from even those who understand prompts an causality to balance the imbalance.

What has kept us in our current situation has not come forth from what we have taught, but fromour own failedspiritual obedience to the Most High. It's a no brainer that melaninated people excel at all the things that they decide to do, but without acknowledgement of the Most High God, Yahweh, that He has given our gifted abilities to us, only leads to vainty and magnification of ourselves and not the Giftor. This is exactly why my people are treated so lowly. This is exactly why my people don't get the proper credit for their achievements, but lose the knowlege of your roots and you lose everything.
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do we have a branch of Yahweh here in the UK?
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Branch of Yahweh as in people or as in some building? One matters more than the other and the answer to the one that matters more is yes...if it is answers you seek, seek Yahweh and He will provide them in the ways that He sees fit. If the intentions of your heart are good, He will most definiately provide ALL the answers.




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With any gift and the power and/or influence of that gift comes the responsibility to not misuse it and also to share it as the purpose of that gift dictates. Teaching is hardwired into our being, it is a part of resiporatory ways of Divine knowledge, which isn't meant to be held onto as a crutch for power. Knowledge wasn't meant to be hidden, but those who are meant to know will know and understand. Hiding knowledge from even those who understand prompts an causality to balance the imbalance.

I find that people become teachers if they like it or not, they find themselves having a knowledge of something and people naturally inquiring as to what it is, how to achive it themselves. A bit like having a product thats in high demand,by not sharing it you are only doing bad for yourselfharming others around you.

The question now though is, should we start harbouring our knowledge? Should we now become introverted, not just in a social aspect regarding business, politics and what not but in regards to our Divine knowledge. At the moment our best people are working for the British/American governments in whatever field. Furthering their studies which in the end is doing us no good. Should the Metu Neter volumes have been passed around secretively as an underground set of books, prehaps in various volumeswith coded sections kind of thing?

What has kept us in our current situation has not come forth from what we have taught, but fromour own failedspiritual obedience to the Most High.

Can we fail Yahweh in these times?

I wasinto thinking that you belive we are of spirit, collectively. The past knowledge of our ancestors being hardwired into our genetics, unavoidable...

No matter how ignant a black person seems, no matter how stupid their speach or behaviour, deep down what you think you have to say to help them out of their abyss is already known to them, sometimes in language you cannot even comprehend. we all know what is going on, we are all keeping the plot, that means you, me, the brother on the streets stabbing somebody, the sister selling her body. we know.

The revolution being more of an unlocking process unto a higher source...problem is thatsome, too many rather, seem afraid of their inner streangth, afraid of the freedom we seek and all that comes with it, grabbing a bible when they see a duppieor dream of their ancestors and refuse to find out more thinking its evil or just not perciving themselves in the right light.

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The question now though is, should we start harbouring our knowledge? Should we now become introverted, not just in a social aspect regarding business, politics and what not but in regards to our Divine knowledge. At the moment our best people are working for the British/American governments in whatever field. Furthering their studies which in the end is doing us no good. Should the Metu Neter volumes have been passed around secretively as an underground set of books, prehaps in various volumeswith coded sections kind of thing?
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Simply put, if we hide away the knowledge which we have been gifted, we are equally (if not greater) as iniquitous as the establishment that has done the same thing.
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What has kept us in our current situation has not come forth from what we have taught, but fromour own failedspiritual obedience to the Most High.

Can we fail Yahweh in these times?
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Any of Yahweh with His seal of anointing will not fail Him. Those who love Him with all their heart and mind will not fail Him.

I wasinto thinking that you belive we are of spirit, collectively. The past knowledge of our ancestors being hardwired into our genetics, unavoidable...

No matter how ignant a black person seems, no matter how stupid their speach or behaviour, deep down what you think you have to say to help them out of their abyss is already known to them, sometimes in language you cannot even comprehend. we all know what is going on, we are all keeping the plot, that means you, me, the brother on the streets stabbing somebody, the sister selling her body. we know.

The revolution being more of an unlocking process unto a higher source...problem is thatsome, too many rather, seem afraid of their inner streangth, afraid of the freedom we seek and all that comes with it, grabbing a bible when they see a duppieor dream of their ancestors and refuse to find out more thinking its evil or just not perciving themselves in the right light.

We all have spirits, but like does attract like, positive-positive and negative attracting negative, what separates the spirits is how in-tune we are with the nature of our spirit and if that nature is of Divine good.

The absolutetruth is in us, be we must find it and pull it out. We all know what the truth is at some level, but sometimes it takes a conscious effort from the outside to jump-start and reawaken the unconscious and conscious of the inside of another person. That is the choice of the individual, wake up or stay sleep and incur the consequences of either choice. Although the knowledge of our past is hardwired into us, most ofmy people still find ways to avoid the whole of it, rejecting it in one way or another.

Fear is a control-mechanism, but melaninated people have a whole lot more to gain in the whole objective truth than what we have lossed in the absyss of subjective lies.
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Simply put, if we hide away the knowledge which we have been gifted, we are equally (if not greater) as iniquitous as the establishment that has done the same thing.


But we'd be balancing their wrong doings and not harming anyone by keeping ourselves to ourselves. I'm into the thinking that they can't kill us all, it would upset something on this planet but with all their acts of destablization and depopulation we need to defend ourselves and not allow them to entroach upon everything we do, at least not totally. They can't keep biting the hand that has, 'fed' them for so long.

I'm talking masons practicing the ways of our ancient civilizations to maintain theirs and other such cultural thefts or cultural genocides.

Any of Yahweh with His seal of anointing will not fail Him. Those who love Him with all their heart and mind will not fail Him.

What are you into can I ask... Are you black jewish? How do you love YHVH with all your heart and mind exactly, on a personal note...?

The absolutetruth is in us, be we must find it and pull it out. We all know what the truth is at some level, but sometimes it takes a conscious effort from the outside to jump-start and reawaken the unconscious and conscious of the inside of another person. That is the choice of the individual, wake up or stay sleep and incur the consequences of either choice. Although the knowledge of our past is hardwired into us, most ofmy people still find ways to avoid the whole of it, rejecting it in one way or another.

But we are plagued by those others who'd rather we don't acknowledge ourselves and do what they can to see that we don't. The Black Jews of Ethiopia shouldn't be working with or for the Jewish in Israel they should spend their time helping their true brothers and sisters over ones that have long lost their liniage. Haven't we done enough? From Kemit to the Black saints of Rome tothe rock at Mecca and Buddah himself only to have what we taught perverted and used against us.

Fear is a control-mechanism, but melaninated people have a whole lot more to gain in the whole objective truth than what we have lossed in the absyss of subjective lies.


Shemsi en Tehuti has an intresting quote as his sig about that, not sure if hes still got it.




I wanted to know if the Dagara elders could tell the diffrence between fiction and reality. The elders did not understand what a starship is, they did not understand what the fussy uniforms had to do with anything but they recognized in Spock a Kontomble of the seventh planet... they had never seen a Kontomble that big.
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But we'd be balancing their wrong doings and not harming anyone by keeping ourselves to ourselves. I'm into the thinking that they can't kill us all, it would upset something on this planet but with all their acts of destablization and depopulation we need to defend ourselves and not allow them to entroach upon everything we do, at least not totally. They can't keep biting the hand that has, 'fed' them for so long.

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In some ways, yes...but the overall divine balance has not yet been achieved and black folks do affect that if understood or not.

Any of Yahweh with His seal of anointing will not fail Him. Those who love Him with all their heart and mind will not fail Him.

What are you into can I ask... Are you black jewish? How do you love YHVH with all your heart and mind exactly, on a personal note...?
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I am not jewish at all, that is the truth.Jewish people built their religion (yes, another perverted one)on a much older, truly timeless way oflife, of spiritual "beingness" or existence.
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Loving Yah is easy if love is in you and a part of you. Loving Yah with all heart and mind is primarily driven by seeking Him. I sought the truth firstbefore ever consciously knowing Him by name.

The absolutetruth is in us, be we must find it and pull it out. We all know what the truth is at some level, but sometimes it takes a conscious effort from the outside to jump-start and reawaken the unconscious and conscious of the inside of another person. That is the choice of the individual, wake up or stay sleep and incur the consequences of either choice. Although the knowledge of our past is hardwired into us, most ofmy people still find ways to avoid the whole of it, rejecting it in one way or another.

But we are plagued by those others who'd rather we don't acknowledge ourselves and do what they can to see that we don't. The Black Jews of Ethiopia shouldn't be working with or for the Jewish in Israel they should spend their time helping their true brothers and sisters over ones that have long lost their liniage. Haven't we done enough? From Kemit to the Black saints of Rome tothe rock at Mecca and Buddah himself only to have what we taught perverted and used against us.

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The Ethiopian Jews are just as lost as blackChristians and Muslims worldwide. I do see the objectivity in it all. If the many things my people practice were the right things as Yah has seen fit, what He has blessed us with would not have been perverted and distorted against us.The Divine and absolute truth cannot be perverted/distorted alone, but add this and remove this and it can be. Where we have been messing up is accepting every popular choice the system has given us. The system designs its choices to screw people over by giving perceptions of "choice", but both having the same or similar calculated outcomes, that is proven by what is called religion andby hiding the true spirituality which will make us free.
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Any one who seeks the whole objective truth won't have to worry about helping his brother or sister. Once the Divine knowledge of Yahis in one's every fiber of being, it brings about an enhanced desire to love/help one's brothers and sisters, because truly every brother and sister is a reflection of self; howI percievemy peopleis how I percieve myself. I do not hate my people (hate isbased infear), but I do dislike their backward and stubborn ways. Help is in vain if my people don't wish to help themselves. I have learned a lot in that helping yourself and your own is very important, but we can't do it effectively without Yah, but first things first, help on the basics, the foundationand build up from there. We will be righted, acknowledged, andrepatriatedas a people, but that is not without the Divine hand of God, Yahweh, truthfully and earnestly acknowledging Him first.
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Fear is a control-mechanism, but melaninated people have a whole lot more to gain in the whole objective truth than what we have lossed in the absyss of subjective lies.


Shemsi en Tehuti has an intresting quote as his sig about that, not sure if hes still got it.

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Loving Yah is easy if love is in you and a part of you. Loving Yah with all heart and mind is primarily driven by seeking Him. I sought the truth firstbefore ever consciously knowing Him by name.

Thats the thing, they took their knowledge and as war was waged with the people they stole it from it we lost it to them. Their langage also has African words in it, love pointing out that ''Ka'' & ''Ba'' have esoteric meanings in Africa going way back and those two words are also found in Jewish mysticism as well as Arab as in the ''Ka-ba-llah'' although they like to change the spelling, heck, 'Kaballah' could be the way the Kemites spelt it. With the Arabs you have the rock at Mecca being the, ''Ka ba''.

Other words = ''Eh eh'' -I'd have to getmy paper on linguistics but in Nigerian its used to affirm something or say no depending. To the Jewish its, ''Eh Heh'' again I'd have to go home and get my books on what it means in hebrew but its rooted in African language. An affirmative word to the Jewish, ''Eh Heh -Yeh'' being another heb